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Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by chispamed » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:35 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #181

_bxg1 wrote: post #54

I've come to accept that there is no good OS (maybe iOS, but not really). You're just picking your poison. Want to be spied on and have your system slowly accumulate cruft and grind to a halt over the course of a few years? Use Windows. Want to be constantly fiddling with your system just to keep it running on a day to day basis? Use Linux. Want to be constantly spied on and probably also hacked? Use Android. Want to…

> Want to be constantly spied on and probably also hacked? Use Android. Most of the spying is done by phone apps. This affects iOS and Android in the same way in recent versions. The extra bit that gets sent to Google directly seems like a small part of it.

In my experience it’s easier to manage permissions on iOS and it’s easier to see which apps used them. So while app vendors probably try to include the same spying software on both platforms I’m able to restrict their data access in a more straightforward way on iOS.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by anchpop » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:36 AM UTC

ChrisSD wrote: post #153

brianpgordon wrote: post #84

I'm no Windows fanboy but there's a lot of misinformation here. In the spirit of bullying the reader with a big list of points, here are some examples of incorrect claims in TFA: 1. It's not hard to disable Cortana and internet-assisted start menu search completion. I assume that's what they mean by "keyboard scanning and voice recording" because I don't think there's anything else like that in the OS. It is possible…

I agree with much of what you say but I wanted to clarify one point. > 3. I like UAC. The article claims that giving users a dialog box to permit admin access is good for malware, but the alternative is taking admin away from users altogether on their own computers. I don't think this is an acceptable tradeoff. The UAC is about persuading legitimate developers to do the right thing. In that respect it has been succes…

> It's not a security barrier (malware can bypass it, or get the user to)

All it needs is the user to have one of many buggy programs installed on their computer, for example Steam. If you're doubtful of this, replace the steamservice.exe executable with one of the same name that does whatever you want (doesn't require a admin privs and can be done by any user on the machine) and then reboot - it will run as admin with no prompt. Source: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2015-7985

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by jstewartmobile » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:36 AM UTC

techntoke wrote: post #67

jstewartmobile wrote: post #31

Wine however, is awesome. For UI apps on Linux, I think Wine is a better platform than Qt/GTK/etc.

Wine is okay, but for me it generates lots of errors and overall is much slower compared to a native app. I'd much prefer a native Qt app than a Wine app.

PS2 emulator works at full frame rate under it--ordinary GUIs should fly.

There's something else going on there...

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by wvenable » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:44 AM UTC

suby wrote: post #240

wvenable wrote: post #149

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> It's worth a mention just how buggy win10 has been for me. Is it though? I mean I've had none of these problems. You could literally have a bad RAM stick or a misbehaving piece of hardware. For every one of these posts, are hundreds of thousands of people will no problems at all and therefore no reason to make a post.

It could be bad hardware, you are right. I doubt the issue is faulty hardware since the same parts work in Linux, but the ultimate point that it could be something else entirely and not Microsoft's fault is of course true. This is a forum though. We're here to talk and share our experiences and anecdotes. We don't have access to any real statistical data regarding the amount of bugs and issues that people experience…

I've had problems with Windows in the past and now I don't. Does this information help you in any way? Does it contribute something of value? No. All the anecdotes about stability and usability are mostly just noise masquerading as useful discussion.

Even with potentially important issues, like privacy, nothing has changed in the last 2 years. The horse is so beaten to death it's unrecognizable. For those who really care, they've moved on and probably to an OS just as bad, if it wasn't Linux. There's no value to this conversation and even the original article isn't anything new or interesting.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by interrealmedium » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:55 AM UTC

itvision wrote: post #234

thrower123 wrote: post #170

Most of these issues are solved if you can manage to get your hands on a copy of the LTSB (or whatever they are calling it these days, I believe the name has changed slightly) version of Windows 10. I would actually pay good money for this distribution, but it's only available through MSDN subscriptions or enterprise licensing. It's a rock-solid, stable, garbage-free version of Windows. You don't get any half-borked…

Sadly not legally available for SOHO users in any shape or form.

You can get a volume license by buying a bunch of licenses for stuff that's $5-$10 per user. You'll still end up with a total of ~$300 (Including one LTSC license), but it is entirely legal and supported by Microsoft.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by doggydogs94 » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 12:59 AM UTC

What does the author really think about Windows?

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by hota_mazi » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 1:04 AM UTC

_-david-_ wrote: post #199

hota_mazi wrote: post #70

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I'll take the Windows Registry over an OS that litters my home directory with dot files, or even simply force me to create my own format of saving my settings (even ~/.settings is barely an improvement). Saving your settings should be an API offered by the OS and the Windows Registry is pretty good at that.

Have you looked in a Windows user's home directory?

What does this question have to do with the existence of the Windows Registry API?

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by pier25 » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 1:14 AM UTC

timrichard wrote: post #218

pier25 wrote: post #201

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Stop it with the drama. There are millions of people (billions?) using Windows to do stuff every day. Just an example: do you know who Hans Zimmer is? You have most lilely heard his music in countless films. Yeah, he uses Windows.

I think he’s probably more invested in Cubase than Windows itself, which I’ve heard is the better of the two platforms to run it on.

Totally, but my point is that if Windows wasn't "ready for prime time" how come there are tons of people being productive with it.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by vips7L » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 1:15 AM UTC

Silhouette wrote: post #207

vips7L wrote: post #174

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> As a professional software developer, the tools available on UNIXy platforms are already much better in many cases than the Windows ports. This is because everyone keeps trying to make windows unix/gnu. Embrace powershell it has everything GNU binutils does, but built in. As a professional software developer I NEVER have problems developing except when unixy devs don't test for windows or don't use cross platform t…

This isn't just about a convenient shell, though, is it? The state-of-the-art in compiler and other tool development in a lot of languages is hosted on UNIXy platforms. Many of the developers are there. Much of the attention and research and new work is focused there. Many of the tools for hosting online applications as a server are there. Windows simply isn't the dominant platform for most of this kind of work, and…

You have a point, and its one I didn't really consider (community). I was mostly looking at mature things.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by mehrdadn » Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 1:26 AM UTC

suby wrote: post #237

mehrdadn wrote: post #210

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> I did allow git, 7zip, and clion to add themselves to the right click context menu, but I don't think that counts as a shell extension? They do count, but whether or not they're relevant depends on whether they're triggered. e.g. if you never right-clicked, then 7-zip probably doesn't count. Although 7-zip also installs drag-drop handlers, so it's not just right-clicking, and I'm not sure when the others get trigge…

> Hm, somehow I feel neither of them is related. How likely is it that the name wasn't unique after your rename? Did you type in gibberish or something that could plausibly exist? I only have my memory to go by so this could be faulty, but if I remember correctly I was trying to copy a public repository into an empty folder. I simply called git clone url. When that failed, considering the error message I got, I then…

I see, thanks for elaborating! Yeah that's really bizarre. Especially because, if you give a random destination name for git clone, it shouldn't matter at all whether the current folder is empty or not -- the repository's will be in a subfolder after all. The question here is what is the actual error you got in that case -- was it again something about the target folder not being empty (despite being random), or something else entirely? If it's the former, then I have no clue haha. But if the error might've been different this time, then that might explain it.

Regarding WSL, it shouldn't be related unless you'd actually launched it sometime between when the incident occurred and the most recent boot before then. But even then, I can't imagine how cloning into a new folder with a random name could possibly trigger a WSL issue of this sort.

Otherwise, the only things I can imagine are clion or Sublime Text (whichever have shell extensions)? Only because I don't use either, so I have no idea what functionality they might incorporate into the shell. If I had to take a wild guess, it might be auto-scanning inside folders (for whatever reason) and keeping handles open that prevent file deletion and such? But again, unlikely given that so many people use it, and given that even Visual Studio doesn't need to scan like that.

In terms of weird issues more generally -- yeah I think it's pretty unlikely your case is hardware-related. I do have to say Windows 8.1 seemed more stable than 10. Especially on 1909, I've gotten some 3-4 BSODs over the past few weeks, which is way more than I used to get since before the update, and I've been pretty clueless as to why. But on the other hand, I'm pretty impressed that the file system is still intact, and even completely unaffected by most BSODs, and so barring the inconvenience of the reboot, I rarely have problems. Whereas, with Linux, I have a different variety of problems :P like I upgrade the OS and my package dependencies break, or I upgrade packages and now have to figure out how to fix configs and services that broke, or I want to install an older version of some program and now my afternoon is gone, or I run a script and it suddenly wrecks my system because I happened to have a space in my path, or something goes wrong and the file system suddenly gets a ton of errors (generally the FS seems much more fragile than on Windows)... well I can keep going :-)