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All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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> The problem is no effective oversight. Laws without oversight are going to be obviously abused. Lots of laws are privately enforced. DMCA doesn't have to be different. If you file a false DMCA claim, even if unknowingly, you should be liable for damages. To the platform, for their cost in dealing with your B.S. An to the content owner, for their costs (including time and attorneys fees) and any lost or interrupted…

I believe similar ramifications should apply to the uploader in the case of a valid DMCA complaint to make this fair. There are some logistical issues with enforcing that. I admit that upfront as I don't think those are a fruitful topic if you wish to discuss my initial "belief."

Wouldn't that just be a normal copyright infringement lawsuit?

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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AFAIK DMCA notices don't go through the courts. They're just sent to the site owner, who must comply or file a counter notice. Also, AFAIK there haven't been any prosecutions for people abusing DMCA notices.

> AFAIK DMCA notices don't go through the courts. They're just sent to the site owner, who must comply or file a counter notice. I think you're mixing two things: * if a site owner receives a DMCA notice and believes the content is not infringing they can just do nothing and / or tell whoever sent it to get bent, sender may escalate to the courts * service providers which want to be protected under safe harbour must…

Lack of punishment for bad requests make me wonder if a valid business strategy is DMCAing competition at every turn.

Also makes me wonder if people could DDOS an entire company with DMCA takedown requests.

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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post #22

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> AFAIK DMCA notices don't go through the courts. They're just sent to the site owner, who must comply or file a counter notice. I think you're mixing two things: * if a site owner receives a DMCA notice and believes the content is not infringing they can just do nothing and / or tell whoever sent it to get bent, sender may escalate to the courts * service providers which want to be protected under safe harbour must…

Lack of punishment for bad requests make me wonder if a valid business strategy is DMCAing competition at every turn. Also makes me wonder if people could DDOS an entire company with DMCA takedown requests.

> Also makes me wonder if people could DDOS an entire company with DMCA takedown requests.

Fastest way to make change will probably be using their own game against them and have them lobby on your behalf

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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post #12

> Japanese company "유니콘미디어" That looks like Korean, to me (Unicorn Media) . DMCA seems to have been one of those things that we say "It seemed like such a good idea, at the time" after the fact. I'm certainly waiting to hear positive stories about it.

We've used DMCA to request GitHub takedown repos containing our proprietary software.

I've seen DMCAs take down GitHub repos where the code was a clean room reimplementations of proprietary software.

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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post #20

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what’s your software so I can find it and host a torrent of it?

It’s free to download.

So what was the point of taking down the GitHub repo if your software is free to download anyway?

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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post #22

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> AFAIK DMCA notices don't go through the courts. They're just sent to the site owner, who must comply or file a counter notice. I think you're mixing two things: * if a site owner receives a DMCA notice and believes the content is not infringing they can just do nothing and / or tell whoever sent it to get bent, sender may escalate to the courts * service providers which want to be protected under safe harbour must…

Lack of punishment for bad requests make me wonder if a valid business strategy is DMCAing competition at every turn. Also makes me wonder if people could DDOS an entire company with DMCA takedown requests.

Also makes me wonder if people could DDOS an entire company with DMCA takedown requests.

Someone should DDOS the web pages of all the American congresscritters and their campaigns and campaign contractors with DMCA notices. That's probably the only way this will get fixed.

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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post #24

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It’s free to download.

So what was the point of taking down the GitHub repo if your software is free to download anyway?

MacOS Catalina is free to download, do you think Apple would be fine with someone posting the source to GitHub?

Re: All DMCA notices filed against TorrentFreak in 2019 were bogus

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It seems to me that companies are now (and will be) relying on the long tail of their entertainment investments to justify the cost. Perhaps before it was easier to recoup the investment up front?

What are the chances that these companies genuinely need this sort of draconian copyright law to remain profitable?

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