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Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by shakna »

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #28
pxeboot wrote: post #9

Very valid issues here. Although it has improved, Windows Update is still shockingly bad compared to any decent package manager used on Linux in the past 10+ years.

I never got into an intractable package issue with windows, where the dependencies were broke in a way where I had to crawl through logs and manually delete things to get them working. That’s happened to me a handful of times with Ubuntu and bad package configs.

> I never got into an intractable package issue with windows, where the dependencies were broke in a way where I had to crawl through logs and manually delete things to get them working.

I cannot count the number of times that's happened for me on Windows, Linux and macOS. None of them are immune to this problem.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by jotm »

blackrock wrote: post #50

Plus, the confusing control panel. Everything is flat, with no color distinction, that I must scan every single stupid grey icon, and memorize or guess, what the icons mean. Before, some of the icons would have colors, like the defrag program, where I can quickly identify the program, because the icon has a touch of red in it. This slows me down, and it increases my cognitive overhead to look for things in Windows. A…

Fork that "control" panel. Use the old one.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by oaiey »

zozbot234 wrote: post #15
nvarsj wrote: post #10

One positive point as the article points out is compatibility. This is the single reason Windows remains the staple of industry software, across almost all industries. It's particularly relevant in light of recent Mac OS X dropping 32-bit support. There are a lot of professionals whose livelihood depends on these older apps that either will never be updated or will take a very long time to do so.

I bet Wine is actually more compatible than Windows itself. Especially if you just look at software up to the Windows 7 era. Can you run Windows 3.1 programs on a modern 64-bit OS? With Wine it can be done.

I think a bet you would loose :). Wine is an awesome project but 100 devs vs 10.000 devs is not fair on an API surface as big as Win32.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by ragequitta »

cpach wrote: post #20
java-man wrote: post #4

Missing from the list: Win 10 periodically resets the "default applications", completely ignoring previous user preferences. Starts opening PDF files with Edge (argh!) or TXT with Notepad (double argh!). Does anyone know how to prevent this?

I haven’t experienced that in a while (IIRC it was at least 1,5 years ago). E.g. W10 1903 has not done that to me. Does anyone here know if it’s possible for »mere mortals« to send in bug reports to the Windows team…? If so, you might want to do that. Or does that require going through some kind of intermediary?

Look for feedback hub in your start menu.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by kardos »

_bxg1 wrote: post #54

I've come to accept that there is no good OS (maybe iOS, but not really). You're just picking your poison. Want to be spied on and have your system slowly accumulate cruft and grind to a halt over the course of a few years? Use Windows. Want to be constantly fiddling with your system just to keep it running on a day to day basis? Use Linux. Want to be constantly spied on and probably also hacked? Use Android. Want to…

> Want to be constantly fiddling with your system just to keep it running? Use Linux.

This may have been true 10+ years ago; the amount of fiddling required is pretty low these days.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by _bxg1 »

kardos wrote: post #75
_bxg1 wrote: post #54

I've come to accept that there is no good OS (maybe iOS, but not really). You're just picking your poison. Want to be spied on and have your system slowly accumulate cruft and grind to a halt over the course of a few years? Use Windows. Want to be constantly fiddling with your system just to keep it running on a day to day basis? Use Linux. Want to be constantly spied on and probably also hacked? Use Android. Want to…

> Want to be constantly fiddling with your system just to keep it running? Use Linux. This may have been true 10+ years ago; the amount of fiddling required is pretty low these days.

I tried ~3 years ago, vanilla Ubuntu. Still enough fiddling that I had trouble focusing on my actual projects. At least there's decent app support now thanks to Electron.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by drewg123 »

I have a windows 10 laptop that i keep around for the few things that need windows (updating an old remote control, that kind of thing), and the odd/annoying behavior is that the fonts will go insane after updates. There will be no fonts at all for the desktop icons, or traditional windows apps. Even cmd.exe doesn't show any fonts. However, web browsers (chrome) will work (with some fonts being weird), as will the new-ish windows 10 style control panel things.

I've finally figured out that logging in as a different user, logging my account out, and then logging back in as me will "fix" the font issue ... until the next update.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by ethbro »

ravenstine wrote: post #38
ogre_codes wrote: post #11

Apple hasn't done a great job of supporting MacOS over the past few years. Catalina in particular has been a bit rocky, but every time I look seriously at Windows as an alternative it falls short. It's quite sad to me that my choice of OS has essentially boiled down to "Sucks less, costs more". It's been a few years for me, but maybe time to start seriously looking at Linux on the desktop again.

I don't see how Apple hasn't done the best job in terms of operating systems. macOS hasn't changed significantly in the last decade; it's essentially the same interface, but less skeumorphism. The only bug I've experienced that's close to being serious is the touchbar freezing(seriously wtf). Windows, on the other hand, has changed significantly. Sure, it runs 32-bit programs, but the interface difference between 7 a…

The problem of Linux DEs seems to be that they're run by UX geeks. Which makes sense. Who else would be willing to dedicate the amount of time to get them working?

The downside is that utility comes in absolutely last place with UX geeks.

Ergo, you get a full UI redesign at every opportunity.

But... that's why you pay people: to do boring things. Like port an old UI into a more modern underlying framework without changing it.

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by oaiey »

twobat wrote: post #33
nvarsj wrote: post #10

One positive point as the article points out is compatibility. This is the single reason Windows remains the staple of industry software, across almost all industries. It's particularly relevant in light of recent Mac OS X dropping 32-bit support. There are a lot of professionals whose livelihood depends on these older apps that either will never be updated or will take a very long time to do so.

This doesn't matter for 99% of the population.

Does not for 99% of consumers (only because of browsers) and does matter for 75% of business users (reduced by 24% because of browsers)

Re: Why Windows 10 Sucks or Everything Wrong with Microsoft Windows

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Post by megaman821 »

ogre_codes wrote: post #11

Apple hasn't done a great job of supporting MacOS over the past few years. Catalina in particular has been a bit rocky, but every time I look seriously at Windows as an alternative it falls short. It's quite sad to me that my choice of OS has essentially boiled down to "Sucks less, costs more". It's been a few years for me, but maybe time to start seriously looking at Linux on the desktop again.

I use both platforms regularly. Using dual screens, I have noticed many more bugs in MacOS graphics stack than Windows. From out-right freezes, to black screens, inverted colors, wrong colors, fuzzy fonts, screen glitches and more.

The best things about MacOS is its Unix underpinnings and general consistency. The flip-side also happens to be the two worst things about Windows.

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