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Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by LinuxBender »

w0m wrote: post #31
rasengan wrote: post #4

The old internet died long before these centralized services appeared. The old internet was when we ran our own servers, built and hosted our own websites, and we were truly free in the wild wild west. Its easier than ever to run your own servers, but today few do. The old internet is dead (for now) and it looks more like the BBS era today. But we innovated past that then, and we will innovate past that now. I am gre…

> we ran our own servers, built and hosted our own websites .. Like... the AOL days? GeoCities? Different bubbles we've moved to

One of those was forked and is alive and well. Neocitites [1]

[1] - https://neocities.org/

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by malvosenior »

> The internet of the 2010s will be defined by social media’s role in the 2016 election, the rise of extremism, and the fallout from privacy scandals like Cambridge Analytica.

When I think of the internet of the 2010s I think of clickbait farms like Buzzfeed politicizing absolutely everything. This statement by them is 100% in line with the type of content "journalists" have produced and polluted the internet with the past 10 years.

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by ilikehurdles »

mashby wrote: post #30
samb1729 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BuzzFeed News is not BuzzFeed. They've won many journalism awards as you can see on their Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News I do agree that reusing the name must surely do their image significant harm.

This is often repeated, but...Can you name a large news source that has not won a "journalism awards"?

Fox News has zero Peabody Awards. I can't find anything on Yahoo News, Facebook, or Twitter winning pulitzers. Breitbart has zero pulitzer awards.

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by shantly »

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #41
shantly wrote: post #33

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Making it illegal so no legitimate business can do it without incredible risk of being sued/charged out of existence seems quite feasible.

You really don’t think companies would figure out a way around any such “illegality” or just use it anti competitively as is being done throughout the EU with its ham-handed policies?

I find this kind of defeatism entirely baffling. Regulating corporations is hard so we shouldn't try? This is a lot less complicated than many sorts of regulation we attempt. Just give up on all of it, it's pointless? Where's the bottom on this line of thought?

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by batt4good »

It's sad to say, but "we" as people who enjoyed the old internet or felt compelled to build and contribute to it are a tiny minority of internet users today. We are a niche. The vast majority are people looking to watch youtube, TikTok or some other social networking garbage. It's sad but this is the reality. People who are just looking for entertainment or social dopamine think the old internet is "boring" or "looks dumb".

:(

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by ilikehurdles »

Pigo wrote: post #36
hydgv wrote: post #16

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I'm so looking forward to that one comment that always appears "no acshually this is buzzfeednews and they are great and they've won 1337 pulitzer prizes" Edit: oh there it is, hanging from my grandparent

I just read that comment before seeing yours, ha. Well they both seem to work the election of Trump into every article. You can't drum up traffic and ad dollars without adding that into the conversation.

You worked that into your comment, but ctrl+f for "trump" yields zero results on the article in question. Are you intentionally being this inflammatory?

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by ravenstine »

maxymajzr wrote: post #43

I remember the sound my 28800 modem made before connecting. I knew I have exactly 1 second below 60 minutes to be online before I get disconnected from my student dial-up. I had ICQ. We used Altavista (and Astalavista to crack the software we illegally got). Relevant information and socializing was done via newsgroups, as well as content-sharing. Many don't know why winzip/winrar has the option to split an archive in…

> The consumer-generation that's lifeblood of leeches such as buzzfeed/youtube has no experience nor right to write about "old" internet

While I share your sentiment towards Buzzfeed and clueless millennials, I don't think it's entirely fair to say they have no right to write about the "old" internet.

I began to experience the web around 1997, and it was different in a lot of ways compared to now. More personal pages, less centralization, little content policing, Netscape, Real Player, etc.

I'm sure some old fart from the 80's would tell me that I didn't know the "old" internet because I'd never used Telnet to log in to a BBS. While there's truth to that, it doesn't mean I don't have my own perspective of what's "old".

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by shantly »

ekianjo wrote: post #72
hans1729 wrote: post #45

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>It's very unlikely tracking can even be banned [...] How so? It's just politics - no more, no less. I don't even consider it highly unlikely that it will , letalone can, be banned, at least in the EU.

Because whatever flows in networks is a fundamental properties of the networks and it's natural for it to be available for anyone/any entity running centralized or decentralized services. Tracking is a natural consequence of operating networks.

What Facebook and Google and Twitter and Amazon and American Express and so on collect and do with their data is not remotely necessary to operating their services and businesses, except to the extent that they make money by spying on people per se.

Re: The old internet died and we watched and did nothing

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Post by mattlondon »

It is interesting that people say "the internet never forgets", yet this article clearly shows it does.

Do we want the internet to forget, or not to forget? Is forgetting so bad? Not everything needs to be collected and catalogued and preserved forevermore.

There is a lot of crap out there - I'd be happy for some personal stuff I posted many years ago as a much younger and naïve person to just slowly rot away.

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