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Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by caresource_ta »

hyperpallium wrote: post #50
IIAOPSW wrote: post #11

This is exactly what I've wanted phones to become for years. It honestly amazes / pisses me off that I can't buy something like this off the shelf. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and piss away a few hours on rom flashing to get /e/ on my phone.

I guess you're aware of http://termux.com ? It's effectively a linux distribution for android (with a large repository of packages), that uses the existing android kernel. So no rooting required, and has the power efficiency of android.

This is very interesting. This might just replace the raspberry pi connected to my VT220, I could even use a Bluetooth serial transceiver and make the whole thing wireless.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by drewmol »

cyril_figgis wrote: post #34
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people do you know who have heard of or will buy a device called PinePhone? And that's the problem right there. Hell, even the people who work in cybersecurity don't give two shits about this. I'm in this gig and phones are IOS across the board.

Do any of your cyber friends have dumbphones?

Yes... “IOS across the board”

- Sent from my iPhone ;)

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by roywiggins »

thawaway1837 wrote: post #54
ummwhat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you read this too literally. I want a device which acts like a phone in my pocket and acts like a desktop when plugged into a screen/mouse/keyboard. The perfect unison of essentials like ride-sharing with the ability to do serious work. It doesn't have to be /e/.

Isn’t that basically Samsung Dex

Yes, Dex can more or less do this. I didn't realize my Samsung phone could do it for six months after I bought it, so maybe it's not well advertised. It does work, but I haven't tried to get actual work done with it.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by roywiggins »

kovek wrote: post #58

I’d love to see a tablet that can be connected to a monitor to go pc mode. On the tablet, I could use a tablet pen to control the cursor/textinput on the monitor.

Whatever newest Samsung tablet is probably supports this through their Dex feature.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by zozbot234 »

mirimir wrote: post #48
zozbot234 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many phones are somewhat harder to unlock than Samsung models. The Knox efuse is an annoyance, but most of that is security theater anyway. It doesn't gate many useful features that a Lineage user would care about.

OK, then. It still seems offensive that there's no way to reset it.

It's a fuse. It's write-once. That's just how the device works. They probably did it like that so that attempts to tamper with the device without the owner's knowledge would always be detectable after the fact.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by mirimir »

hyperpallium wrote: post #50
IIAOPSW wrote: post #11

This is exactly what I've wanted phones to become for years. It honestly amazes / pisses me off that I can't buy something like this off the shelf. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and piss away a few hours on rom flashing to get /e/ on my phone.

I guess you're aware of http://termux.com ? It's effectively a linux distribution for android (with a large repository of packages), that uses the existing android kernel. So no rooting required, and has the power efficiency of android.

Does it provide tools to lock down GPS and WiFi-based geolocation?

And turn off scanning WiFi APs? Just allow manual selection.

Also, can you flash firmware? Maybe wipe the GPS firmware?

Oh, and can you mess with the baseband?

Edit: I asked in the Termux Wiki.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by mirimir »

zozbot234 wrote: post #65
mirimir wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, then. It still seems offensive that there's no way to reset it.

It's a fuse . It's write-once. That's just how the device works. They probably did it like that so that attempts to tamper with the device without the owner's knowledge would always be detectable after the fact.

From what I've read, it's actually not physically a fuse.

But in any case, it ought to be fixable by an authorized service technician.

Indeed, it's arguably a right to repair issue.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by realusername »

pjmlp wrote: post #44
riquito wrote: post #33

Microsoft tried with Continuum https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/continuum but Windows Phones didn't take off

They were slowly taking off in Europe, and were already around 10% when they decided to kill them.

Yeah that's what I don't get as well, they killed the product as soon as it started to take off.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by solarengineer »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28
zozbot234 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No manufacturers would release any devices with this OS PinePhone has one-upped /e/ and is releasing a competitively-priced device with mainline Linux support (not just AOSP)! It absolutely is a possibility.

How many people do you know who have heard of or will buy a device called PinePhone? And that's the problem right there. Hell, even the people who work in cybersecurity don't give two shits about this. I'm in this gig and phones are IOS across the board.

The pine phone (and other devices from pine 64) is currently for developers only. They explicitly ask that if you are going to return the devices because of a poor end user experience, then you please don't buy it in the first place.
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