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Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by kevsim »

zifnab06 wrote: post #9
mlinksva wrote: post #3

> Until now, Nexedi has been maintaining a derivative of ChromiumOS with some extra features: NayuOS. However, the gap between ChromiumOS and its proprietary counterpart ChromeOS has increased so much that we see no possibility to maintain a usable NayuOS in the long terme. In what ways has the gap between ChromiumOS and ChromeOS increased? Is that true of Chromium and Chrome as well? > Nexedi has thus decided to sup…

I have one qualm with /e/: they use LineageOS as their base, add a few apps, and avoid mentioning this to anyone. Most of their repos aren’t special, they’re a 1:1 copy of upstream. I realize the license allows this but attribution would still be appreciated.

At least their FAQ says they’ve just forked off LineageOS

https://e.foundation/get-support/#faq

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by zifnab06 »

kevsim wrote: post #31
zifnab06 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have one qualm with /e/: they use LineageOS as their base, add a few apps, and avoid mentioning this to anyone. Most of their repos aren’t special, they’re a 1:1 copy of upstream. I realize the license allows this but attribution would still be appreciated.

At least their FAQ says they’ve just forked off LineageOS https://e.foundation/get-support/#faq

Thanks! I was wrong, look at that :P

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by cyril_figgis »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #28
zozbot234 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No manufacturers would release any devices with this OS PinePhone has one-upped /e/ and is releasing a competitively-priced device with mainline Linux support (not just AOSP)! It absolutely is a possibility.

How many people do you know who have heard of or will buy a device called PinePhone? And that's the problem right there. Hell, even the people who work in cybersecurity don't give two shits about this. I'm in this gig and phones are IOS across the board.

Do any of your cyber friends have dumbphones?

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by kamarg »

riquito wrote: post #33

Microsoft tried with Continuum https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/continuum but Windows Phones didn't take off

Which is a shame. I really enjoyed my Nokia 920. It was a significantly better user experience than any Android phone I've owned. Just a shame that nobody wanted to develop apps for it.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by ummwhat »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #23
IIAOPSW wrote: post #11

This is exactly what I've wanted phones to become for years. It honestly amazes / pisses me off that I can't buy something like this off the shelf. Maybe I'll bite the bullet and piss away a few hours on rom flashing to get /e/ on my phone.

That's just wishful thinking. No manufacturers would release any devices with this OS for the following reasons: Phones are commodity devices where volumes have to be high and costs low. The big manufacturers that have the resources to make and sell something like this at scale(i.e. Samsung) want you tied in their ecosystem instead. Maybe some niche manufacturer could make a device with this via crowdfunding but the…

I think you read this too literally. I want a device which acts like a phone in my pocket and acts like a desktop when plugged into a screen/mouse/keyboard. The perfect unison of essentials like ride-sharing with the ability to do serious work. It doesn't have to be /e/.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by jbverschoor »

mekkkkkk wrote: post #27

Why has cheap KVM-consoles for phones never taken off? It seems like a great way to get a portable/inexpensive laptop experience. Judging by the relative success of Chromebooks, it would appear to be a ripe segment. And the performance of any mid to high tier phone is more than enough for the casual laptop user. As mentioned in the article: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook...

I don’t want a kvm switch. I don’t want to rely on some remote server to do actual work

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by jbverschoor »

mirimir wrote: post #17
lostmsu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Video decoding is usually implemented in hardware, so very efficient.

Sure, GPU. But do phones have gaming-level GPU? So what do phones normally do with their CPU?

The iPhone cpu/gpu is crazy fast.

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by mirimir »

lostgame wrote: post #24
mirimir wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, GPU. But do phones have gaming-level GPU? So what do phones normally do with their CPU?

AFAIK video decoding generally has its own chip, at least for supported codecs, separate from the GPU.

Can those things be exploited for other purposes?

Re: Using an /e/ phone as a desktop or laptop

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Post by craftinator »

mirimir wrote: post #39
lostgame wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK video decoding generally has its own chip, at least for supported codecs, separate from the GPU.

Can those things be exploited for other purposes?

Sure. I've used the H264 encoder/decoder in lossless mode on the raspi3 compress large amounts of sensor data. You just need to format the data into image frames. It worked very well, and ended up being bottlenecked by the io bandwidth of the system.
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