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Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Surely I'm not the only one who thinks this sort of research is necessary. The sooner we are able to genetically engineer improved humans - first eliminating the incidence of genetic disease and second making overall healthier, happier and smarter people - the better the world will become.

Shall they try your children first? Oh so sorry - they died young and in agony, from unintended side effects. But Science!

Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Whoa, lite.cnn.io is back? (context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21804160 )

It comes and goes. I have no idea who maintains it. I check it every day and it is up at least part of the week. Some weeks it stays up.

Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Interesting. I still roll to disbelieve on China shunning human enhancement. The gains are just too great, the fruit too low hanging. Several standard deviation increases in polygenic traits are on the table, including the most important economic trait, intellectual ability: https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection Given China’s almost unique state capacity to think long term, history of eugenic policies in sport, an i…

Wow those are optimistic numbers. Considering we have NO idea what genes select for most features (if any).

Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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We are gonna look back on this just how we look back on Giordano Bruno. Future generations would find it ridiculous that he was jailed for technological progress and science.

He was completely irresponsible, did no do what he advertised he would do, and endangered the health of many people.

Don't get seduced by the dream he was selling. He was in fact a fraud, not a researcher.

Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Interesting. I still roll to disbelieve on China shunning human enhancement. The gains are just too great, the fruit too low hanging. Several standard deviation increases in polygenic traits are on the table, including the most important economic trait, intellectual ability: https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection Given China’s almost unique state capacity to think long term, history of eugenic policies in sport, an i…

Doesn't it seem a little insensitive to experiment on human beings..?

Given China's complete disregard for human life, I don't find it odd that they're the ones doing it, but we should not praise the effort.

Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Surely I'm not the only one who thinks this sort of research is necessary. The sooner we are able to genetically engineer improved humans - first eliminating the incidence of genetic disease and second making overall healthier, happier and smarter people - the better the world will become.

Shall they try your children first? Oh so sorry - they died young and in agony, from unintended side effects. But Science!

I agree.

I find many comments on this thread pretty despicable.

Re: Chinese scientist who edited twin babies' genes jailed for 3 years

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Interesting. I still roll to disbelieve on China shunning human enhancement. The gains are just too great, the fruit too low hanging. Several standard deviation increases in polygenic traits are on the table, including the most important economic trait, intellectual ability: https://www.gwern.net/Embryo-selection Given China’s almost unique state capacity to think long term, history of eugenic policies in sport, an i…

Wow those are optimistic numbers. Considering we have NO idea what genes select for most features (if any).

We don’t need the causal variants for embryo selection, just the predictive variants. We have this for height now. The only reason we don’t have this for IQ now is everyone doing GWAS studies are too chicken to put an IQ test in with their other measures. As the cost of a sequence declines, this will not last.

Obviously, this is not an issue if there is state involvement.

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Surely I'm not the only one who thinks this sort of research is necessary. The sooner we are able to genetically engineer improved humans - first eliminating the incidence of genetic disease and second making overall healthier, happier and smarter people - the better the world will become.

Shall they try your children first? Oh so sorry - they died young and in agony, from unintended side effects. But Science!

Of course we wouldn't try on humans first. Animal trials precede human trials.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow those are optimistic numbers. Considering we have NO idea what genes select for most features (if any).

We don’t need the causal variants for embryo selection, just the predictive variants. We have this for height now. The only reason we don’t have this for IQ now is everyone doing GWAS studies are too chicken to put an IQ test in with their other measures. As the cost of a sequence declines, this will not last. Obviously, this is not an issue if there is state involvement.

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