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Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by kryogen1c »

andybak wrote: post #4
tastroder wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That video shows that... they evicted some dude that seems to make his personal brand about being edgy and annoying? What exactly am I supposed to be outraged about here?

Hard to see a "brutal attack" from the video (although it is unclear). More a fairly typical forced ejection scuffle. I'd like to know more before forming any view. The poster offers email on domains including one named rape.lol so is obviously a charming fellow.

Agreed. Seems like one of those "free speech advocates" that enjoys being as offensive as possible and then howls if anyone tries to take their content down.

The video is definitely not a "brutal assault". If the video is bad or incomplete, after pictures of injuries would easily prove his point.

Attention-seeking behavior.

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by tastroder »

jc01480 wrote: post #12

These events that are identified, are they a local thing in the author’s area? Like BSides to Americans, etc.?

The congress is a yearly multi-day conference organized at the end of each year by the CCC [0] "Europe's largest association of hackers". Not sure how attendance at bsides style conferences is but I'd figure it's more like Black Hat, somewhere around the 17/18k mark for the last year iirc.

[0] https://www.ccc.de/en/home

edit: ah yes, DEFCON, thanks. I always get those two mixed up.

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by StavrosK »

eqvinox wrote: post #9

Yeah, dude, posting a video of you getting kicked out primarily hints that you were being an idiot of some kind. Occam's razor, simplest explanation and whatnot. Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Also, FYI, CCC team has "Hausrecht" and if they tell you to leave you legally need to leave and they're well within rights to evict you.

> Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise.

Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right".

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by SoylentBob »

kryogen1c wrote: post #11
andybak wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to see a "brutal attack" from the video (although it is unclear). More a fairly typical forced ejection scuffle. I'd like to know more before forming any view. The poster offers email on domains including one named rape.lol so is obviously a charming fellow.

Agreed. Seems like one of those "free speech advocates" that enjoys being as offensive as possible and then howls if anyone tries to take their content down. The video is definitely not a "brutal assault". If the video is bad or incomplete, after pictures of injuries would easily prove his point. Attention-seeking behavior.

Especially when you look at the category this has been posted to

> youre-going-to-wish-you-killed-me

Yeah that seems totally reasonable.

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by eqvinox »

StavrosK wrote: post #17
eqvinox wrote: post #9

Yeah, dude, posting a video of you getting kicked out primarily hints that you were being an idiot of some kind. Occam's razor, simplest explanation and whatnot. Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Also, FYI, CCC team has "Hausrecht" and if they tell you to leave you legally need to leave and they're well within rights to evict you.

> Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right".

> Isn't that what this entire post is doing? In contrast, you're saying "oh they kicked you out therefore they must be right".

Sure, it's telling a story from his perspective, and then has some audio and video of the actual eviction. I don't see an issue with the eviction itself and for what happened before it's his word against the CCC. Until further information is provided, I choose to trust CCC over his word.

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