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Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#31
As a slightly unrelated note, how do these sort of databases actually get bootstrapped?

I imagine as you get up and running, you'd end up with industry contacts, access to industry data sources and so on but I'd be interested to know how these sorts of things get started?

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's less than 1GB; the four large archives you see that are each nine-hundred-and-change megs are dated snapshots. Just pull the latest from here (current as of 12/03/2019): http://ftp.freedb.org/pub/freedb/freedb-complete-20191203.ta...

Thanks! It's 948Mb.

Some more details about the files for future reference. (Sizes listed below are measured in bytes.)

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freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2: bzip2 compressed data

    curl -I http://ftp.freedb.org/pub/freedb/freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 02:42:04 GMT
    Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)
    Last-Modified: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:14:50 GMT
    ETag: "542dff-3b460112-8295de80"
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Content-Length: 994443538
    Content-Type: application/x-tar
SIZE (freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2) = 994443538

SHA256 (freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2) = e005ec2ee3f3dabf2f5c45b49273358fcb796aae946cdfeeb31cd2e555b86978

MD5 (freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2) = 6f8be385155242e11bae5d5acb557b5d

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cddbd-1.5.2.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, was "cddbd-1.5.2.tar", last modified: Sat Jul 1 17:47:47 2006, max compression, from Unix, original size 675840

    curl -I http://ftp.freedb.org/pub/freedb/cddbd-1.5.2.tar.gz

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 02:45:17 GMT
    Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)
    Last-Modified: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:06:55 GMT
    ETag: "20bb2f-2bef1-a6738dc0"
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Content-Length: 179953
    Content-Type: application/x-tar
    Content-Encoding: x-gzip
SIZE (cddbd-1.5.2.tar.gz) = 179953

SHA256 (cddbd-1.5.2.tar.gz) = bec016250b06fa7aed368ca163489b72cebc93c1ae804e5f342cea3c64f5e4e4

MD5 (cddbd-1.5.2.tar.gz) = 2f0e6a0ec6a4157a5c3874fca10b33ce

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freedb-proto5-update: Perl script text executable

    curl -I http://ftp.freedb.org/pub/freedb/freedb-proto5-update

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 02:47:34 GMT
    Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux)
    Last-Modified: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:05:29 GMT
    ETag: "20bbac-1480-f00ce040"
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Content-Length: 5248
    Content-Type: text/plain
SIZE (freedb-proto5-update) = 5248

SHA256 (freedb-proto5-update) = 4cc1f7b7909c845c55fe1e8ea4b4844e45d2645d7ddec74300517378c2558081

MD5 (freedb-proto5-update) = 0ec2fb029e9aeae76ddf25daea8ddd59

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#34

Seeing FreeDB reminds me of Audiograbber.

Man, that's a blast from the past. Audiograbber was one of the first pieces of software I ever spent my own money on. I can also remember buying Kali (which let you play IPX LAN games over the TCP/IP internet), ACDSee, and something called I think ZipMagic(?) that made Windows treat zip files as directories.

Ah, memories.

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#35

Disclaimer: I know nothing about what led to this situation Found it a bit sad to see this notice followed by a recent news headline saying the project was guaranteed to continue: Continuation of the free database guaranteed With the acquisition of the www.freedb.org domain MAGIX also takes on all duties regarding the worldwide freedb community

That headline is on web.archive.org as far back as 2014 (I didn't check earlier), so 'recent' may be a bit of a misnomer here.

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! It's 948Mb.

Some more details about the files for future reference. (Sizes listed below are measured in bytes.) . freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2: bzip2 compressed data curl -I http://ftp.freedb.org/pub/freedb/freedb-complete-20191203.tar.bz2 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 02:42:04 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) Last-Modified: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:14:50 GMT ETag: "542dff-3b460112-8295de80" Accept-Ranges: by…

Would it be too much trouble to ask to put these in the Internet Archive as items while you’re at it?

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#37
post #4

That's a real pity, but they didn't stand a chance against musicbrainz: https://musicbrainz.org/ I ran a similar service for years (daz.com) and eventually shut it down because musicbrainz was not worth competing with though I think we did a better job of tying the links between the various bands by tracking artists from one act to another, also studio artists which made it quite nice for music discovery.

Sorry, musicbrainz would be good if there were any good interface to enter data. A good part of my CDs is from independent Brazillian musicians. They have no data in musicbrainz and the interfaces to fill it are a pain in ...

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#38
post #10

It seems like this is some archaic service that provides song titles and album artist information for some physical DRM-free uncompressed audio format from years gone.

Yes it is, and it works brilliantly for that use case. I like to rip my own CDs so that I know the source of my music and can control the quality. I use Exact Audio Copy which has an automatic download from freedb.org. I have no idea what I'm going to do once it shuts down.

I typically buy music that isn't in any DB anyway, so I enter it on vgmdb then use vgmdb's cddb endpoint. Maybe one of the competing services will work for you for commercial music?

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#39
post #31

As a slightly unrelated note, how do these sort of databases actually get bootstrapped? I imagine as you get up and running, you'd end up with industry contacts, access to industry data sources and so on but I'd be interested to know how these sorts of things get started?

Ummm... no industry contacts. It’s just a bunch of people who are anal about music.

It has always been like that in the Web 1.0 days: just a bunch of people being anal about something.

And it worked beautifully.

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#40
post #4

That's a real pity, but they didn't stand a chance against musicbrainz: https://musicbrainz.org/ I ran a similar service for years (daz.com) and eventually shut it down because musicbrainz was not worth competing with though I think we did a better job of tying the links between the various bands by tracking artists from one act to another, also studio artists which made it quite nice for music discovery.

Apologies, but it feels so strange to me to see FreeDB framed as being "in competition" with anything. It was designed to do exactly one thing: continue a community-focused and technically-compatible version of CDDB after that project pulled a bait-and-switch in the late '90s by taking the data that was generously- and freely-submitted by users and then spinning themselves into the for-profit Gracenote LLC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDB#History

I'm sorry you found it unsustainable, but from what I can find about Daz it seems to have been pretty much the same idea as Gracenote: take the data submitted by users out of their desire to share alike, lock it up, and then commercialize it by putting a bunch of semi-related functionality around it. Assuming this link is the correct Daz, anyway, it talks about mp3 downloads, used CD shopping, artist exclusives, and other things I was always very glad FreeDB didn't want to be:

https://www.j-oe.nl/2011/06/development-of-daz-com-share-you...

"Visitors and members can search for all kinds of music related information and listen to ten thousands various samples. DAZ.com offers members a free mp3 to download every day (see homepage) and two RSS feeds: the free mp3 of the day and the updates from last 24 hours. Feel free to point your reader to this feeds.

In the near future we will add more community features, create a better user-interface and offer a second hand cd-spot. At the moment I am contacting with signed and unsigned artists to discuss ways of working together."

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