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Post by Skunkleton »

ssss11 wrote: post #534
Skunkleton wrote: post #524

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Unfortunately I don’t think there is a legitimate opportunity to work on this problem, and also have a stable high paying job. At the moment I think the best thing to do is educate people. Eventually, awareness will build and the market will emerge.

With all the media coverage and growing concern of recent years I was hoping that time had come.. that’s a shame

Well don't take my word for it. I'm just some rando on the internet. There are positive trends too. Apple sees consumer interest in privacy, for example.

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Post by GuB-42 »

catalogia wrote: post #423
jdsully wrote: post #304

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$25 is hugely expensive. This is an industry that removes $0.02 bypass capacitors by trial and error to save a few pennies.

Amazon will knock $20 off the price of a kindle if you get the version with ads. And those only display static grayscale ads, advertisers may be willing to pay more for something more invasive. Extracting $25 of value from spyware on televisions doesn't seem out of the question.

Amazon doesn't make that Kindle $20 cheaper, it makes the ad-free version $20 more expensive, or at least, that's how I see it. That's more about market segmentation than the actual value of ads.

Even if we assume ads are nothing more than an annoyance with $0 value, the "with ads" version may still be beneficial to Amazon. That's if people with a lower budget tolerate ads and those with a high budget don't. If they only sell the expensive ad-free version, they will lose the low-budget customers, if they sell the ad-free version at the with-ads price, they lose money from people who are ready to pay more. Ads here are just a market segmentation tool. Just like it is common for low end products to be the same as their high counterparts but with disabled features.

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Post by killface »

Scoundreller wrote: post #481
Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #353

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A lot of them has started even locking down the serial interface. Hell even the boot logo on most LG TV's these days are signed. EDIT: One thing that "might" work is a repair remote / repair menu. On the LG TV's in my house the repair menus allow you to change things like what HDMI mux the TV is expecting (I can't recall if the WiFi Module was included in such menus, but if it is you could change it to something its…

There’s so many inputs, I’m sure there’s piles of vulnerabilities. IR interface buffer overflows anyone?

i've never been so happy to not have a smart tv...

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Post by pabs3 »

tornato7 wrote: post #515
rhizome wrote: post #434

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Root + alternate ROM

Is there much of a community for installing alternate ROMs on IoT devices?

Not sure how active it is but there is a community for installing open firmware on Samsung TVs:

http://www.samygo.tv/

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Post by Scoundreller »

smolder wrote: post #540
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It’s a good question re:heat that seems to be unanswered. While it is compression and decompression, it’s not 100% efficient. And in a gas car, it’s releasing hot compressed air throughout the system, including the cat converter. I figured enough heat during compression would radiate to the engine. Plus more RPMs = more stuff warming up. I mean, the energy has to go somewhere, and the engine itself makes the most sen…

Reciprocating mass (pistons, rods, and valves constantly changing direction) is where a great deal of the energy is sunk when engine braking. It doesn't all go to heat. Accessories are also doing useful work like the alternator charging the battery and the water pump circulating coolant. Friction is significant and increases with rpm and oil pressure, but you aren't heating it nearly as much as when it's burning fuel…

Naw, diesels do all of that too and their engine braking is minimally effective without modifications. Trucks will have "Jake brakes" installed, but diesel cars get minimal effects from engine braking.

Gas vehicles effectively engine brake without modification, but dunno where all the energy is getting converted.

I do wish alternators would detect engine braking and ramp up electric cabin heat though.

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Post by gbear605 »

jsizzle wrote: post #520
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The TV would know where you are by knowing what phone masts are in your area. But if you are in the US then ain't California pushing for tighter data collection regs? But I get what your trying to say. Time to spin up a Software Defined Radio and start faking cell towers so your TV thinks it's in the EU :-P

Doesn’t GDPR apply to EU citizens, regardless of geography? I know that at my place of work, I have to get consent from EU citizens to email them, even if we are talking in the US

Legally it does

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Post by ssss11 »

iamnothere wrote: post #541
ssss11 wrote: post #509

To those in this thread denouncing these dystopian times my question to you is, how do we as technologists create a meaningful and successful career changing this? I’ve been against this for a very long time and can’t see any easy way to contribute (and also provide $ for my family) short of being in government policy making or law making which would require substantial career changes and further education and then s…

Bruce Schneier has been advocating for "public interest technologists" in order to address this very question: https://public-interest-tech.com/ He even recently had a job posting (on his blog) for someone to work in this area.

This is a great resource thank you! Although it’s slanted to the USA and I’m not American it still looks very useful.

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Post by dwighttk »

stevewillows wrote: post #489
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I already did, over a decade ago. I tell friends "No cloud services on this ship!". They've bought into it too, buying more CD's, records and dumb only TV's. My current setup is an old 1080P Bang & Olufsen setup. Looks and sounds great. Similar with audio - B&O did airplay back in the 80's called master link. So each room in the house can play music from anywhere else. The only things networked are actual computers a…

A guy in /r/buyitforlife posted a palm pilot (Tungsten C), and it got me thinking about heading back down this road (further than I already have.) For portable audio, I'm using a souped-up iPod video. I'm thinking 2020 will be the year where I take another step in this offline direction -- at least with hardware.

I had bad luck with iPod hard drives... I’m surprised you’re is still working, or was there an SSD video iPod that I’m forgetting?

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Post by ssss11 »

chillacy wrote: post #539
ssss11 wrote: post #509

To those in this thread denouncing these dystopian times my question to you is, how do we as technologists create a meaningful and successful career changing this? I’ve been against this for a very long time and can’t see any easy way to contribute (and also provide $ for my family) short of being in government policy making or law making which would require substantial career changes and further education and then s…

You could pipe a piece of your paycheck to the EFF, a lot of companies have donation matching.

Yes I’ve considered that (and will probably do so) thanks. I’m looking for contributing though through my career if/when that is possible.

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Post by masonic »

lvh wrote: post #343
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$25 is hugely expensive. This is an industry that removes $0.02 bypass capacitors by trial and error to save a few pennies.

True, but bypass capacitors don't produce ad revenue.

... yet.
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