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Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by wtracy » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM UTC

faceplanted wrote: post #29

Finnucane wrote: post #16

Linux doesn’t really have a good alternative to InDesign. For photo editing I find that Darktable & Gimp serve me well enough. Fortunately, I don’t need to worry about CMYK any more.

Noob question, why is CMYK editing different from any other kind of editing? You can convert rgb to CMYK, every printer does it, so what's actually missing?

Not a color expert, but every color encoding scheme is going to have a slightly different gamut. Meaning, CMYK can encode colors that RGB can't, and vice-versa.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by zozbot234 » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:29 PM UTC

wtracy wrote: post #31

faceplanted wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Noob question, why is CMYK editing different from any other kind of editing? You can convert rgb to CMYK, every printer does it, so what's actually missing?

Not a color expert, but every color encoding scheme is going to have a slightly different gamut. Meaning, CMYK can encode colors that RGB can't, and vice-versa.

Negative color values can be used to cleanly represent colors outside the standard gamut. But I'm not sure that CMYK even has anything like a standard gamut associated with it - so the details of that "conversion" might depend on what the CMYK data is for.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by fbnlsr » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:30 PM UTC

This has been my only argument for years for not switching to Linux. I've realized I haven't used Photoshop in more than two years now. I either work on projects where the designers provide me with already cut and ready to use props, or I work with people using Figma.

My only argument now is that my Macbook is still working and I don't "have" to spend 2k on a Thinkpad. :)

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by bilal4hmed » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:34 PM UTC

per the post, Krita has 5 paid developers and if you look at the front page, for the month of december they have received donations of about $2500. If donations are the major source of funding, they are severely underfunded.

If some of us have budgets that allow for it, might not be a bad idea to send some money their way.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by bluedino » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM UTC

What are the odds of a small team bringing a product like Pixelmator to the Mac?

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by twic » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:49 PM UTC

fbnlsr wrote: post #33

This has been my only argument for years for not switching to Linux. I've realized I haven't used Photoshop in more than two years now. I either work on projects where the designers provide me with already cut and ready to use props, or I work with people using Figma. My only argument now is that my Macbook is still working and I don't "have" to spend 2k on a Thinkpad. :)

I run Fedora on a 2011 MacBook Pro. There was a bit of messing around to get graphics working, and sometimes the trackpad driver crashes, but other than that, it works perfectly.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by erikbye » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:50 PM UTC

Finnucane wrote: post #16

Linux doesn’t really have a good alternative to InDesign. For photo editing I find that Darktable & Gimp serve me well enough. Fortunately, I don’t need to worry about CMYK any more.

Tried Scribus?

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by newnewpdro » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:51 PM UTC

> The text tool is horrible, how could you even ship it?

I haven't tried Krita yet, but recently had to do some text compositions in GIMP 2.8.18 (Debian 9.11) and the UX was absolutely awful. I don't remember GIMP's text tool driving me insane when I last did such things a decade or longer ago, but the on-canvas widget in 2.8.18 is quite bad.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by imglorp » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:54 PM UTC

hellozee wrote: post #27

grawprog wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, because i've never really understood, I see this a lot without much explanation. I've used gimp for years for various image and photo things and haven't used Photoshop since the mid 2000's, what's so bad about gimp in comparison, other than the ui(which to me seems much the same as old versions of photoshop), to Photoshop?

No non destructive editing available is one of the biggest drawbacks

Isn't that what layers are for?

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by knolan » Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 10:55 PM UTC

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves.

Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS.

All this competition is great. We’re seeing new performant software run rings around the lumbering giants. I’m a huge fan of blender. It boggles my mind how small a footprint it has compared to other 3D applications.