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Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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post #187

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What in the hell was he renting that ruined his career?

Actually Robert Bork, and I misremembered : not actually compromising, but worse, a reporter being a smart Alec. Bork had asserted that there was no right to privacy so a reporter set out to demonstrate that invading his privacy would upset him. https://web.archive.org/web/20071009150938/http://www.theame...

It's great when sanctimonious fools like Bork are hoist by their own petard.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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I'm not surprised that most mainstream buyers don't know about this, but I'm surprised that this is still news to HN readers. In addition to past HN coverage (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21657930 and others), in the last year it's been in NYT, WaPo, Consumer Reports, and tons of other places.

That said, if anyone doesn't already at least skim the privacy policies of any networked devices they own… now is a good time.

Even retailers often sell your info. For example, Target "may share your personal information with other companies." Crate & Barrel may share "a record of any transactions you conduct on our Website or offline" with third parties. The defaults are worse than any reasonable person would expect.

(Have a few extra dollars? Consider spending it on a DIY public service campaign. I've been promoting https://twitter.com/simpleoptout/status/1191029269691957249 and other tweets to followers of Samsung's Twitter accounts.)

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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post #197

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Slight correction; it was not John Tower (and I'm curious how you mistook the two), it was Robert Bork. He was nominated for the Supreme Court by Ronald Reagan. His video rental history was obtained by Michael Dolan. His nomination was rejected by the Senate, but it wasn't necessarily over his video rental history because the videos he rented were entirely unremarkable. However, it brought up questions of privacy and…

I stand corrected thank you! (Perhaps I was confused as they were both rejected nominees around the same time?)

No problem! I went to the wikipedia article you linked and didn't see any mention of the video rental records, so I got curious and tried to look it up and couldn't find anything until I looked up the privacy act, which led me to Bork. That was the only reason I was curious how the two were mistaken as I am not knowledgeable in the slightest about these things. I just like to trek down the rabbit holes others provide and try to pay it forward with any corrections I stumble upon.

So thanks for the rabbit hole!

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post #33
post #14

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Ads, baby. Everything you do online is for sale.

The Internet needs to be better than being almost entirely propped up by the advertising industry. Surely even they know their day will come. It will, won't it?

Except this is the case where users have made a large cash purchase, and so have the realistic expectation that they are the paying customer and not a pair of eyeballs to be sold to the highest bidder.

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post #3

How did we go from a country that made it a crime to share video rental records to one where everything you watch is constantly monitored and monetized?

Too many people saying, “I have nothing to hide.” Also, people like “free” stuff.

Except these are expensive TVs and not "free".

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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post #192

Is this the sections the OP is referring to with their link title? > Your TV viewing history includes information about the networks, channels, websites visited and programs viewed on your Smart TV and the amount of time spent viewing them. We may use automatic content recognition (ACR) and other technologies to capture this information. Your Smart TV transfers video snippets or TV tuner information in order to deter…

Yes, this is the section.

The Smart TV has many inputs, including PC input (if you connect with your computer), Camera input (to watch the photos you took with your camera), Chromecast streaming from your phone.

The wording in this section syas that any of these are fair play to be sent over to the manufacturer for recognition purposes.

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post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in the hell was he renting that ruined his career?

Actually Robert Bork, and I misremembered : not actually compromising, but worse, a reporter being a smart Alec. Bork had asserted that there was no right to privacy so a reporter set out to demonstrate that invading his privacy would upset him. https://web.archive.org/web/20071009150938/http://www.theame...

Bork was an originalist so I doubt invading his privacy would change his stance. Kind of a dumb move by the reporter.

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I was kinda hoping Apple TV would adopt a more privacy-forward stance. No?

Maybe? Depends on whether some Apple exec ever decides they need the revenue or not. For comparison, even Google's "Don't be evil" reputation only lasted about a decade or so.

Google depends on data to make money while Apple doesn’t. They make their money from the hardware.

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post #109

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I’m sure the antennae will be impossible to physically disconnect as well. I really hoped we’d never get to Fahrenheit 451 but the wall to wall TVs that watch you are pretty close at hand.

Fahrenheit 451? That was book burning. I think you mean 1984, and its telescreens.

No, those are present - part of the commentary of the book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451

Montag awakens ill the next morning. Mildred tries to care for her husband but finds herself more involved in the "parlor wall" entertainment in the living room – large televisions filling the walls.

Beatty recounts the history of how books lost their value and how the firemen were adapted for their current role: over the course of several decades, people began to embrace new media (in this case, film and television), sports, and an ever-quickening pace of life.

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