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Tasks versus goals, same as always. It's exactly the same as the question of why it was once recommended to carry a rifle for safety when traveling from St. Louis to Portland, and now it's recommended you leave it at home. The goal was always to make corporations money. The task necessary to accomplish this goal just happened to flip.

Wait who would recommend making that journey unarmed today?

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Ads, baby. Everything you do online is for sale.

The Internet needs to be better than being almost entirely propped up by the advertising industry. Surely even they know their day will come. It will, won't it?

If "their day comes" and we still don't have a cultural shift that involves paying anyone for content except the largest tech companies (e.g. Netflix), then we'll be even worse off.

Though, that Patreon has any traction at all suggests that a shift is happening or at least becoming feasible.

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In a word: convenience.

No, laws are not made by convenience. They are made by lawmakers who in turn are influenced by lobbyists. That is why it was illegal to share video rental records and that is why it is not illegal to monitor and monetize your private data.

>They are made by lawmakers who in turn are influenced by lobbyists.

> In a word: lobbying.

can i simplify this as "laws are made by lobbyists" ?

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Here is how to disable it for all brands: Don't connect your TV to the internet.

Some of the newer TVs need to be configured with internet access to even work.

Got specific examples? Bold claims require proper sources.

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I discovered this "feature" when I set up a PiHole on my home network. After a few days I noticed that my TV was phoning home on an almost minute-by-minute basis. After digging into the URL (which had the acr in it), I read a few posts about their data collection and immediately lobotomized my TV (reset to factory) and disconnected it from the network. There is no universe where the manufacturer of my television needs to know what I'm watching on it.

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I imagine the thinking is that if the TV is not connected to any WiFi, it might try to connect to something public or non-password protected neighbornet so it’s better to connect it to something non-functional rather than unconnected. Of course, the TV could just lie about what it’s doing anyway...

I wish there were more dumb TVs on the market. What kind of dystopian market is it where you can't even trust an appliance you own to not spy on you.

I think it's because the phrase, "None of your business" has fallen out of common use.

I would hear that all the time when I was a kid. I don't think I've heard it in public in decades. Or maybe I was just a nosy kid.

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Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.

I'm looking for a new TV and I started with looking for a dumb TV but I came to the conclusion that 4k HDR isn't supported by Nvidia Shield for Youtube and Netflix. Only option to get that is to use the built in smart features of the TV. So even using external boxes you don't get all the latest hardware support for video codecs.

Yes it is?

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Thankfully it isn't quite that simple for electronics in the US. If it is sold commericially, it has to be registered with the FCC. In this way, you at least know if it has WiFi, LTE, etc, and can see the module that is installed on it. This makes it much easier to go into the device and physically disable the radios on it. Heck, maybe that is something like iFixit could do, have a how to to completely remove radio c…

The average consumer won't be able (or even know) to disable built-in telemetry. As you can see from Facebook, invasive ads, DNA kits, and Alexa, most won't even care. We've lost this battle. Our warnings weren't strong enough to win over those interested in convenience.

Well if they aren't doing anything wrong, they have nothing to hide...

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People like subsidized stuff. People who subsidize things like to do it only when they are paid more than the subsidies they give and they are paid based on who they subsidize because the people who are paying the subsidizers must go to the subsidized people and take their money for the subsidies. It's a rock-solid business model with a requirement to know your customers, it's not going away unless a better alternati…

But consumers are not being informed that they’ve bought a subsidized tv. For example, Several salespeople have told me in the past few weeks that none of their TVs serve ads. Looking deeper into the TVs the salesperson was clearly wrong. Few consumers even know to ask the question. Even fewer know that the sales guy is wrong.

Remove ads pop-up at the first set-up? AFAIK the games that offer this option make a very little portion of their games from ad-removal IAP.

Most people simply don't care enough. For those who care, there will be a niche premium market.

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