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They're not "neutral"because they're in loss. I remember since my childhood that NDTV has always been critical of the government and that's why I liked it but due to Burkha Dutt, I started to dislike the channel. Now NDTV is the only channel which reports facts. You see Republic, Zee news etc blatantly spread govt agenda. But that's not because they're in loss, that's because they have sold their soul or never had on…
The personal attack is uncalled for. This is not /r/india. The rest of your post was insightful.
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To be honest, everyone has an agenda. So when BBC is critical of ISRO then it is not propaganda, it is just racial bias. But what these fake news outlets(which include leading mainstream media of India) do is they blame opposition for everything. A bridge had collapsed in Mumbai due to BJP govt alloting it 1 Rupee for maintenance for that year and all channels were "questioning" the previous congress CM. "Built durin…
I agree everyone has an agenda but if they are all just playing the same move - Tit for Tat - provoke-react then what happens? Nothing. Stalemate. Someone has to use some imagination and change the way they play the game. Right now, one day propaganda of one side wins and another day propaganda of another side wins. Its a trap.
If BBC spreads something racist about Indians using their channels and Indian media does the same then it doesn't really matter does it?
Propaganda works when it's dumped upon their audience it isn't like Indian Media who sold themselves to BJP government are influential out of India.
But yes, Propaganda is bad.
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#53Maybe they are trying to counter the default anti Indian narrative of most western media outlets which sometimes takes an ugly embarrassing form https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29502062
American coverage of India's space program has been very positive from what I have seen. If often includes praises of how cost effective it has been, and how wasteful the recent American efforts have been.
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The personal attack is uncalled for. This is not /r/india. The rest of your post was insightful.
This isn't Reddit but the troll who created a new article for spreading propoganda has to be called out and I ain't afraid to do it.
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What "default anti Indian narrative"? Also, the cartoon you've linked to doesn't seem anti-Indian at all. I get that people complained, but it's a cartoon: quite a gentle one at that.
Reuters Report about crimes against women showed how anti indian western media is.
> India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".
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#56In this case, the complaints against CAA seem overblown, and a lot of it hinges on a slippery slope argument about ”what’s next”, where of course the worst is assumed.
As an example https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/caa-not-anti-muslim-lo...
> Seeking to allay the "needless fear-psychosis" sought to be created in certain sections of the society, he said the only purpose of the Act is to ensure the wellbeing of the minorities who have been "persecuted on the basis of religion" in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.
> "The Citizenship Amendment Act is not anti-Muslim from any angle and the misconceptions and apprehensions surrounding the Act is unfounded and motivated," Singh told reporters here.
> The Union Minister of State for PMO said since Muslims are neither in minority in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan nor do they face any persecution because of their religious affiliation in these countries which have Islam as their State religion, they are obviously not included in the Citizenship (Amendment) Act.
This seems reasonable to me. There’s a pathway for refugees to seek citizenship, based on claims of religious/cultural persecution. Since the majority in these nations are Muslims, it makes sense that they cannot claim persecution under this law.
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First time I learnt, news channel become more neutral when they are in loss. Conventional Response is to produce more polarising narrative to gain more views especially a target group that becomes loyal followers.
They're not "neutral"because they're in loss. I remember since my childhood that NDTV has always been critical of the government and that's why I liked it but due to Burkha Dutt, I started to dislike the channel. Now NDTV is the only channel which reports facts. You see Republic, Zee news etc blatantly spread govt agenda. But that's not because they're in loss, that's because they have sold their soul or never had on…
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Reuters Report about crimes against women showed how anti indian western media is.
When stats provided by government show that India is unsafest for woman I hardly see the "anti India" bias
Edit: btw I am not saying India is safe by any measure. The official statistics released by government doesn't match with what you say, be it propaganda, reality or just lack of significant funding into researching these stuff.
Without insightful data, how do you plan to combat anything? 'Growing' rape rates has been used as an excuse to form internet surveillance, censorship (porn ban? adult themed movies?) and other faucet of life. Did that reduce rape rates? Rapes are increasing? Why? What is happening in a developing country that makes it more vulnerable to rape cases if its true?
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> the word fake sounds like they are fake news, No. It clearly says "fake websites" which is a fairly accurate description of what they are. > Let's be honest most major states are doing this I'm sure Sweden and Russia (for example) both have active foreign espionage departments but there's a point where the differences in scale and practice become significant and it's no longer meaningful to say "they both do it".
Nitpick: this isn't espionage.
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#60These days it seems to me that everyone is waging information wars against each other in less than fair ways. Each side cherry-picks information (like research or statistics) in a self-serving manner to drown out opposing views with sheer volume, regardless of whether they are ultimately correct or not. Censorship, deplatforming, fake/incomplete/misleading information, shaming, doxxing/getting people fired, etc. are…
What's next has been plainly stated to be implementation of the NRC [1], which in combination with the CAA will result in Muslims who don't have documentation to prove where their parents were born being rendered stateless. A large number of Indians don't have such documentation, but the CAA ensures only Muslims (being excluded from the whitelist of religious identities listed in the CAA) will be affected. It's not clear what would happen to them: detention centres seem a distinct possibility as some have been constructed and some are slated to be constructed.
The protest are commonly known as the "CAA and NRC" protests, so all this is commonly understood. [2]
> This seems reasonable to me. There’s a pathway for refugees to seek citizenship, based on claims of religious/cultural persecution. Since the majority in these nations are Muslims, it makes sense that they cannot claim persecution under this law.
There are minority groups such as the Ahmadis that are widely persecuted in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. [3] This law would consider them Muslims and therefore ineligible for admission.
The only purpose of the CAA whitelist seems to be to exclude Muslims from becoming Indian citizens. If the law's intent is to help people, it is not reasonable to exclude anyone. If they are excluding people, the law's intention is not what is being claimed. This is why tens of thousands of people are protesting.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Citizens [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Amendment_Act_prot... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Ahmadis