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Post by SmirkingRevenge »

snickerbockers wrote: post #148
njudah wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slight correction; it was John Tower, a potential Defense Secretary nominee whose nomination was scuttled when a local paper got hold of his video rental records. He wasn't in congress at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tower

What in the hell was he renting that ruined his career?

I don't know the specifics of this case... but back then, video rental stores did big business renting porn. That definitely could ruin a career or two, especially in those days.

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Post by jerrac »

Is this the sections the OP is referring to with their link title?

> Your TV viewing history includes information about the networks, channels, websites visited and programs viewed on your Smart TV and the amount of time spent viewing them. We may use automatic content recognition (ACR) and other technologies to capture this information. Your Smart TV transfers video snippets or TV tuner information in order to determine the programs watched.

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Post by gruez »

thematt wrote: post #48
soared wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To each their own - 100% of the content I consume is Netflix or YouTube. For me a non-smart tv is useless unless I hook up something smart to it.

But you could plug in a Roku or a Fire TV, right? The TV can't proxy through those. It's maybe cringeworthy to say, but I probably trust those companies more than I do Samsung.

>but I probably trust those companies more than I do Samsung.

Care to explain why? It looks like both roku and firetv spies on what you watch.

https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smar...

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Post by purple-again »

ken wrote: post #188
criddell wrote: post #3

How did we go from a country that made it a crime to share video rental records to one where everything you watch is constantly monitored and monetized?

Tasks versus goals, same as always. It's exactly the same as the question of why it was once recommended to carry a rifle for safety when traveling from St. Louis to Portland, and now it's recommended you leave it at home. The goal was always to make corporations money. The task necessary to accomplish this goal just happened to flip.

Wait who would recommend making that journey unarmed today?

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Post by m-p-3 »

rohan1024 wrote: post #27

Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.

Then they add some kind of display connectivity DRM like HDCP and suddenly all older dumb monitors are unable to connect to a newer device until someone figure out a way to break it.

DRM were never about protecting the content, it's all about control.

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Post by hatch_q »

driverdan wrote: post #159
kiwee wrote: post #62

Unfortunately all vendors do it. Here is how to disable it, for most brands: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id...

Here is how to disable it for all brands: Don't connect your TV to the internet.

Some of the newer TVs need to be configured with internet access to even work.

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Post by njudah »

nvrspyx wrote: post #174
njudah wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slight correction; it was John Tower, a potential Defense Secretary nominee whose nomination was scuttled when a local paper got hold of his video rental records. He wasn't in congress at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tower

Slight correction; it was not John Tower (and I'm curious how you mistook the two), it was Robert Bork. He was nominated for the Supreme Court by Ronald Reagan. His video rental history was obtained by Michael Dolan. His nomination was rejected by the Senate, but it wasn't necessarily over his video rental history because the videos he rented were entirely unremarkable. However, it brought up questions of privacy and…

I stand corrected thank you! (Perhaps I was confused as they were both rejected nominees around the same time?)

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Post by kop316 »

buddylw wrote: post #165

I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features. At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars? I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like…

Thankfully it isn't quite that simple for electronics in the US. If it is sold commericially, it has to be registered with the FCC.

In this way, you at least know if it has WiFi, LTE, etc, and can see the module that is installed on it. This makes it much easier to go into the device and physically disable the radios on it.

Heck, maybe that is something like iFixit could do, have a how to to completely remove radio capabilities.

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Post by jordanbeiber »

Nextgrid wrote: post #179
xingped wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what this brand is trying to sell?

A TV whose "dumbness" is a selling point and not a drawback. Basically a monitor in a TV form-factor with a reasonably price (it's actually pretty cheap for its size and feature set) - at the moment the only other alternative to this is a commercial display which are priced at several thousands for this size, and even then I'm not sure any of them would offer 4k and HDR (since it's not really relevant for outdoor dig…

I submitted this as a link a few weeks back, and since then ironcast have basically added/updated every point of concern fellow HN posters had:

- HDR

- analog volume “puck”

- more hdmi connections

Also - source code is at least claimed to be open.

Nothing really like this on the European market to be found.

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Post by rsync »

shpx wrote: post #74
rohan1024 wrote: post #27

Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.

Which dumb 4K TV(s) should I buy?

"Which dumb 4K TV(s) should I buy?"

That's a really good question, as it is qualified by the '4k' requirement ...

It's very easy and relatively inexpensive to buy a 1920x10280 commercial display unit, such as the NEC p461, which you have probably seen 10k times in airports.

However, there is not much demand for 4k panels for videowalls since ... the videowall grows to larger than 4k resolution anyway just by virtue of being a wall of panels.

So, at this time, in 2019, it is difficult and very expensive to buy a commercial display panel (that is what you would search for) that is 4k.

If I had to find one I think I would probably get that Dell 43 Ultra HD 4K Multi Client Monitor (P4317Q) with the caveat that it is "only" 43 inches in size.

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