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Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Stuff like this is the reason I don’t connect smart TVs to the internet. If I need web content on the TV, I can connect my laptop with HDMI. The TV should be no more than a display and speakers with a tuner.

Soon enough, failure to connect your TV to the internet within, say, one month will void your warranty (and the TV will refuse to work in two months after that).

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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What's to prevent you from doing the same with a SmartTV in the future? Just disconnect it from the network and keep a box plugged into HDMI1.

Some functions of "smart" TVs are impossible to turn off, unfortunately. I personally don't like the FPS smoothing most modern TVs do, and for many there is no option to turn it off completely.

Most TVs have a "game" mode which turns off the smoothing.

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My Samsung TVs are not connected to the internet. I have never even run the “setup” on them as it turns out you can name inputs and change video settings without excepting any terms. Also before someone post “they look for open WiFi” again it would be great to have proof of that statement that has been made 100 times. Anyway, I was thinking about the screenshots. I wonder what happens if it could not ID the program? Does a human review? It would be a blast to take some shots of Samsung executives and family members and do some deep fake work on them, maybe including Kim Jong Un and some North Korea propaganda broadcast. Except all the terms, hook up to the internet and play the fakes and the propaganda for a month at a time. Just saying..

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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But you could plug in a Roku or a Fire TV, right? The TV can't proxy through those. It's maybe cringeworthy to say, but I probably trust those companies more than I do Samsung.

You do not need to "trust," just read their respective Privacy Statements and you'll see for yourself.

This is not an argument, like not at all, it's just a distraction from the issue: Trampling all over user-rights because somewhere in hundreds of pages of ToS/EULA legal-speak there's a clause hidden supposedly justifying it all.

Here's some reality: "You’d Need 76 Work Days to Read All Your Privacy Policies Each Year" [0] and that was back in 2012. Since then ToS, EULA, Privacy Statement and whatnot have only expanded in scope, people use even more services these days and thus accept even more terms.

You'd need a dedicated law team doing all the reading and interpreting for you if you want to realistically stay informed about all that consent you've given, without having to give up large parts of your productivity just checking and tracing what weird things you supposedly agreed to [1].

There need to be some well-established limits that won't just rely on users supposedly hand-waving all their privacy away, that way the USG might actually even go back to honoring the Fourth Amendment [2].

[0] http://techland.time.com/2012/03/06/youd-need-76-work-days-t...

[1] https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_doctrine

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

#135

My Samsung TVs are not connected to the internet. I have never even run the “setup” on them as it turns out you can name inputs and change video settings without excepting any terms. Also before someone post “they look for open WiFi” again it would be great to have proof of that statement that has been made 100 times. Anyway, I was thinking about the screenshots. I wonder what happens if it could not ID the program?…

My TV has an obnoxious full volume boot sound unless you connect it to the internet :-/

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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post #15

Stuff like this is the reason I don’t connect smart TVs to the internet. If I need web content on the TV, I can connect my laptop with HDMI. The TV should be no more than a display and speakers with a tuner.

I've also found smart TV systems, especially Samsung's (this was quite a few years ago now), to be quite terrible. I would constantly have connectivity issues and app crashing issues. Now I have so many external devices (Apple TV, Roku, Chromecast, PS4) with all of the streaming apps that I will never buy a smart TV again.

Not only are the built ins awful. Their lifespan is very short. I had my Samsung for about a year before it would let me know that “XYZ service was ending in one month”.

Disconnected that thing from WiFi and have never hooked it back up. Xbox/PS are just far superior smart devices.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

#137

Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.

What's to prevent you from doing the same with a SmartTV in the future? Just disconnect it from the network and keep a box plugged into HDMI1.

6. Want to turn down the volume? You can do so instantly, instead of waiting 20 seconds for your TV's operating system to finish booting.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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You're more optimistic than I. Hard to overthrow the industry that specialises in manipulation.

Except they're clearly bad at it. Their biggest success is the hype about how effective their methods are with absolutely no proof.

Advertising's entire model since the beginning has been -- your competitors are doing it, can you afford not to?

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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It could be sold as security feature for additional $1 per year.

Try $5 a month. $2.99 if you're lucky. I'm surprised ISPs aren't providing this service already. Just run a virtual PiHole for your customers.

Most ISPs are also content providers, so they may not be able to based on contract agreements they have (e.g. to get the nbc app preinstalled on a roku, they cannot block xyz domains on any of their corporate networks)
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