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Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by loosetypes »

blotter_paper wrote: post #69
erikpukinskis wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's hijacking of links, addresses, etc, is possibly their top abuse of power. The other possible top abuse is the way they block you in your group messages if you switch from iPhone to Android.

I totally agree that this is weird play, and I don't like OS vendors doing it. I'll add that while I personally prefer Android to iOS, Google implements similar behavior; clicking on a YouTube link launches the app by default, without asking the user. It's super annoying -- a web browser should never launch another app without at least consulting the user, but really, it probably shouldn't happen at all without the u…

I’ll add the Photos on Yelp embedded in Apple Maps locations with accidental taps launching the Yelp native app or falling back to the App Store to download it.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by codyb »

newscracker wrote: post #2

Apple News was already flakey and unreliable in the sources (websites) it would allow to be added. With its highly limited geographical availability (years after launching) and its problematic focus on News+, I switched back to a plain RSS Reader to follow specific sites. Apple News seems like a niche product with hardly any technical effort put into it. In comparison, Google News, with its ads, generally looks like…

It hasn’t been around too long. In a few years it’ll probably be pretty competent at what it does.

I don’t use it but that was certainly the trend with Apple Maps which was pretty crummy when it first came out.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by greiskul »

DocG wrote: post #79
blotter_paper wrote: post #69

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I totally agree that this is weird play, and I don't like OS vendors doing it. I'll add that while I personally prefer Android to iOS, Google implements similar behavior; clicking on a YouTube link launches the app by default, without asking the user. It's super annoying -- a web browser should never launch another app without at least consulting the user, but really, it probably shouldn't happen at all without the u…

It asks first time - do you want to open it and should it remember your choice. Later you can set default in android settings or remove the yt app default setting. It's buried in there somewhere.

Yup, and it's also something that all apps can request, and the user is always asked for their preference until they say 'don't ask again'.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by disintegore »

duskwuff wrote: post #73
damnyou wrote: post #72

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It's not a position you're put into with WhatsApp or any other app. It is bad for your messaging to be made by the same company as your phone. Some really problematic conflicts of interest.

> It's not a position you're put into with WhatsApp or any other app. Sure it is! You can't continue a group conversation from WhatsApp -- or any other messenger, really -- on another messenger service without manually recreating the group. There is literally nothing which makes iMessage unique in this regard.

> There is literally nothing which makes iMessage unique in this regard.

Except for the vendor lock-in, which makes this a problem to begin with. Other services work on a majority of devices.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by MereInterest »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #37
fredthomsen wrote: post #26

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Feels like there has been a bit of a resurgence lately, not that I have any hard data to back that up. The major players ie google and now apple have dumped it, but most blogs and news sites still have rss feeds.

RSS has always been the best way to follow multiple webcomics. I'm not sure why it seems so little-known in that world.

Definitely. If a comic doesn't have an RSS feed, I won't keep up with it. It isn't worth keeping track of the different update schedules and platforms.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by ReverseCold »

duskwuff wrote: post #73
damnyou wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a position you're put into with WhatsApp or any other app. It is bad for your messaging to be made by the same company as your phone. Some really problematic conflicts of interest.

> It's not a position you're put into with WhatsApp or any other app. Sure it is! You can't continue a group conversation from WhatsApp -- or any other messenger, really -- on another messenger service without manually recreating the group. There is literally nothing which makes iMessage unique in this regard.

> There is literally nothing which makes iMessage unique in this regard.

Sure there is. If you try to "text" someone (as in SMS) and the Messages app (which is the ONLY way you can send SMS on iOS) detects your number as registered to iMessage, it will send an iMessage by default.

So even though your number didn't change, and everyone is still using the "Messages" app to talk to you, it inexplicably doesn't work anymore for group chats, and your regular private message colors have mysteriously turned green.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by asdff »

_jal wrote: post #47
fredthomsen wrote: post #26

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Feels like there has been a bit of a resurgence lately, not that I have any hard data to back that up. The major players ie google and now apple have dumped it, but most blogs and news sites still have rss feeds.

It has always been a "people's choice" sort of thing, a least for a certain slice of "people". Large media outfits tend to hate RSS because it puts curation in the hands of users, and that curation function is what a lot of people will pay a lot of money to influence. Smaller media outfits like it, because they can find readers without paying money to influence the large gatekeepers. As blogging has "matured", the bi…

Ironically its the large media outlets that usually have categorical and comprehensive rss feeds, presumably by virtue of being around during the peak google reader years when rss was expected and not bothering with purging the functionality.

It's the upstart outlets that I notice not having RSS at all, with a twitter handle in its place. Pass for me.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by sbarre »

codyb wrote: post #82
newscracker wrote: post #2

Apple News was already flakey and unreliable in the sources (websites) it would allow to be added. With its highly limited geographical availability (years after launching) and its problematic focus on News+, I switched back to a plain RSS Reader to follow specific sites. Apple News seems like a niche product with hardly any technical effort put into it. In comparison, Google News, with its ads, generally looks like…

It hasn’t been around too long. In a few years it’ll probably be pretty competent at what it does. I don’t use it but that was certainly the trend with Apple Maps which was pretty crummy when it first came out.

Apple Maps is still pretty far behind Google Maps.

I don't have high hopes for News, given how much it keeps pushing features that are either user-unfriendly (giant ads in the middle of articles) or designed solely to push you to News+

I used to be a regular (many times a day) user and their changes have led me to stop using it entirely.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by briandear »

damnyou wrote: post #72
duskwuff wrote: post #71

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Um… yes? iMessage is a feature of iOS and macOS. It isn't available on Android devices, and its group chats don't exist outside those platforms. But I don't see how this constitutes Apple "blocking" anything.

It's not a position you're put into with WhatsApp or any other app. It is bad for your messaging to be made by the same company as your phone. Some really problematic conflicts of interest.

And WhatsApp and Facebook are just paragons of virtue.

Re: Apple News No Longer Supports RSS

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Post by duskwuff »

asdff wrote: post #80
damnyou wrote: post #70

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If you are in an iMessage group chat and you switch to Android, you need to create a new group chat to continue talking to your friends.

This function even harms iOS only groupchats. I walk to an area of low reception and try and message the group chat, it defaults as an sms due to the poor signal and breaks the group in the same way. Not sure what advantages an imessage vs sms groupchat even give me in this era of unlimited texting. Pretty hearts?

> Not sure what advantages an imessage vs sms groupchat even give me in this era of unlimited texting. Pretty hearts?

Some cellular carriers still charge per MMS message, so group chats (which use MMS) can get expensive. MMS group messages also have some undesirable properties -- in particular, adding or removing users from a group is unreliable, because each device is responsible for generating a list of recipients itself.

Plus, iMessage uses end-to-end encryption. MMS does not.

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