Anecdote: I tried intermittent fasting for 11 months with very, very little to show for it. I did the 18 hours off and 6 hours of eating plan. I have also tried a strict vegetarian diet for 6 months with no real changes in blood work. My Cholesterol didn't move to the dismay of my PCP and myself quite frankly. Biology: I am a professional Firefighter that ran 1000 miles and bicycled 250 miles during this time frame.…
Have you also tried going a whole day without eating, say 8pm as your last meal and then no eating until 2 days later at 8am, basically 36 hours. Doing that once a week or so is pretty effective. There's a whole host of benefits to longer fasts as well. Helps so much with appetite control, resets your hormones, plus autophagy, etc.
Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]
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Totally this. Of course Anecdata etc etc. I lost almost 40 lbs this year with 5-2 and exercise 3-4 times a week and have been able to maintain my goal weight doing 6-1. I don't eat anything crazy when I am eating. Just less carbs and more protein. I am also vegetarian.
How do you know it wasn’t just the exercise and fewer calories?
> Intermittent fasting seems to confer health benefits to a greater extent than can be attributed just to a reduction in caloric intake.
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Do you find that you're able to do cognitively demanding tasks while fasting? Even small fasts seem to sap my concentration and critical thinking. Once I eat again I feel like I think better.
I do multi day fasts (water Ott broth fasts, so no carbs) and once I am in ketosis I actually feel like I can concentrate as well as when I eat. It's key to not refeed carbs at all during fasting (no juices, honey, etc). I also occasionally do keto between the fasts which might have helped my metabolism switching to ketosis more quickly. Ketosis is - in brief - a metabolic state where the body primarily used fats to…
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#134Anecdote: I tried intermittent fasting for 11 months with very, very little to show for it. I did the 18 hours off and 6 hours of eating plan. I have also tried a strict vegetarian diet for 6 months with no real changes in blood work. My Cholesterol didn't move to the dismay of my PCP and myself quite frankly. Biology: I am a professional Firefighter that ran 1000 miles and bicycled 250 miles during this time frame.…
I was vegetarian for about a decade and during that time my cholesterol was too low such that my doctor recommended "nuts, beer, wine, and hard liquor" as a way to boost my LDL. I saved the voicemail he left and it was a running joke that I had a prescription for the bar. The moment I started eating meat again my levels went back up. My doctor has always said I was overweight but in the last couple years I added an e…
I'm a last year med student who eats plant-based himself and my physician was very pleased with my very low cholesterol levels.
Blood cholesterol is not 100% necessary to provide your cells with colesterol as they can produce their own. In fact blood cholesterol medication exploits the fact that cells produce a good chunk of the cholesterol they need themselves. PSCK9-inhibitors prolong the half-life of LDL-receptors in the cell membrane and thereby increase the endocystosis of LDL particles which in change leads to SREBP1-mediated reduction of the cell's own cholesterol production. If virtually all blood cholesterol was taken up you would have very low levels of blood LDL but that would not translate to a deficiency at a celular level.
Here's a NEJM published study where blood LDL was reduced to a median of https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa1615664
Here is another study by the same author concluding that starting lipid medication at levels as low as 63 mg/dl might have positive outcomes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30073316/
On a side note, from what I've read I thought nuts did not lead to a higher cholesterol but if anyone has a study proving me wrong I'd be glad to read it as I haven't spend much time researching the effect of nuts.
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I have done a couple 36 hour fasts. What broke me was hunger, not low energy. Didn't feel any less energized than usual, really. But resisting the urge to eat after you've been hungry all day and someone puts a meal in front of you is hard.
in many people’s experience (mine included) there’s phase change sometime in the 48-72 hour mark in which hunger/appetite essentially disappears (some describe it is gone, some as easily ignored background noise) Personally, I’ve gone more than 14 days several times, I usually start when not feeling very well (and lacking appetite) which makes even the first couple of days trivial. If you do want to go farther than 3…
Isn't that how anorexics end up unable to eat at all, though? They go so long without eating that the "good" bacteria that permits digestion disappear so they're no longer able to process food.
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Can poor sleep interfere with weight loss?
Yes, one is you will ha e less will power to resist sugar
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#137Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it. This gives it an inherent legitimacy. Contrast all other fad diets, and essentially every supplement ever sold.
Surely people can make money around it. You cannot sell a void [0] but you can very effectively sell void consulting and magazines. [0] even this is debatable
I think I just saw an ad for an app on YouTube that is supposed to help you with fasting. You could market zero-calorie electrolyte tablets, or break-fast bars / tubes / whatever to give you the optimal recovery to "non-fast" mode. You could market protein or vitamin supplements to counter the fact that you're getting 2/3 or 1/3 of the nutrients, but probably still requiring the same amount of some nutrients.
I think there's lots of opportunity for the creative to make money from this fad. :-)
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The hype around intermittent fasting is nothing more than the novice effect & the diminishing returns kick in pretty fast.
As someone who still practises IF, I have been wondering if many of the immediate benefits (weight loss, low cholesterol, reduced inflammation markers, etc) are mostly apparent in sedentary, obese people. IF might work brilliantly for them because it's a psychologically "easy" shortcut to fixing a terrible diet. For those of us who are already lean + good diet + high activity levels, I'm not convinced that IF really…
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#139Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it. This gives it an inherent legitimacy. Contrast all other fad diets, and essentially every supplement ever sold.
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#140If people are interested in learning more about fasting, I put together a few visual guides on it here - http://impossiblehq.com/nutrition/intermittent-fasting I also highly recommend the zero fasting app for tracking. Super simple and really clean app that makes tracking fasts simple. Start small and see how it goes. I find the 16/8 routine tends to work best for me personally with 36 hour fasts sprinkled in every c…
I am not overweight, but I see that IF can increase growth hormone and testosterone, and increase insulin sensitivity, which are of interest to me. I would like to know if I am better doing a couple of longer fasts peer week, or if skipping breakfast would be enough. (Longer fasts feel like they have more benefit, but are more effort, especially when I am trying NOT to loose weight).
Does anyone know of anywhere good to compare the benefits of different IF protocols?