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Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Interesting. I did an "animal-product only" diet for about six months, and I began to feel sorry for everyone else and their inability to think deeply. I was in an almost constant state of enlightenment. Then my buds convinced me to go on a 2000 mile road trip, and after the first stop at Wendy's I lost it, and haven't had the will to go back. It's been like 4 years now.

animal-product only ? No veggies?

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/carnivore-diet

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Totally this. Of course Anecdata etc etc. I lost almost 40 lbs this year with 5-2 and exercise 3-4 times a week and have been able to maintain my goal weight doing 6-1. I don't eat anything crazy when I am eating. Just less carbs and more protein. I am also vegetarian.

How do you know it wasn’t just the exercise and fewer calories?

The fewer calories are part of the idea...

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Except it isn’t. It also involves not eating or snacking after early evening. It is, what it says.

For many people there's no snacking or eating outside regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner). In this case 16/8 IF would be skipping breakfast which is exactly my case for many years now.

>For many people there's no snacking or eating outside regular meals

Just not many people in the US...

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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I’d like to fast until lunch time but I haven’t found any substitute for milk in coffee and I fear that breaks any fasting benefits.

Plenty of ideas on milk alternatives, but I'd suggest you start fasting and initially keep the milk in your coffee. Once you've built the habit, you can figure out the milk situation.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Except it isn’t. It also involves not eating or snacking after early evening. It is, what it says.

For many people there's no snacking or eating outside regular meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner). In this case 16/8 IF would be skipping breakfast which is exactly my case for many years now.

So for "many" people you could say "skipping breakfast" and it would mean the same thing.

But what about the many other people who eat snacks and for whom "skipping breakfast" could mean only 10, 12 hours of fasting?

If you need a term for all people to mean exactly what you want to mean, a term that is correct only for "many" people is not enough.

Aside, IF also includes 24 or 36 hour fasting.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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While I haven't done 36, 24 is relatively easy. The idea that your body needs constant food intake is a modern myth. It's mostly your mind that's been programmed to want to eat that often. Also, once you eat the insulin spike triggers the next wave of craving, and so on. Fasting is not the same because you're well, um, fasting.

> The idea that your body needs constant food intake is a modern myth. Modern food intake also trains the digestive tract (most notably stomach) to never be empty, and we end up confusing signals of hunger with an empty stomach. I heard that Japanese (or was it China? Korea?) people have this rule of thumb of eating only up to ~80% of stomach volume; no idea if it’s factually true but having this rule of thumb of not…

>I heard that Japanese (or was it China? Korea?) people have this rule of thumb of eating only up to ~80% of stomach volume; no idea if it’s factually true but having this rule of thumb of not filling myself to the brim as we seem to culturally do currently seems to be extremely positive I’m my experience.

The traditional Buddhist notion is that one should eat to the point where one more mouthfull would fully satisfy oneself.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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post #105

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Surely people can make money around it. You cannot sell a void [0] but you can very effectively sell void consulting and magazines. [0] even this is debatable

I was brainstorming with a friend about creating an alternative social environment to replace restaurants for fasters, but couldn't come up with any good ideas.

Are there any study cafes/coworking places where you live? Those usually charge for time. That’d be the primary competition, as well as possible reference business model.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it. This gives it an inherent legitimacy. Contrast all other fad diets, and essentially every supplement ever sold.

Are you sure ? Targeting fasting people with ads at the right time of day is probably very lucrative. You can probably be sure that once algorithms pick-up that if some fasting people are more prone to click on ads they will push more people to try intermittent fasting regardless of the effects on health.

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

#119
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Intermittent fasting has a nice advantage - nobody can make any money off of it. This gives it an inherent legitimacy. Contrast all other fad diets, and essentially every supplement ever sold.

Are you sure ? Targeting fasting people with ads at the right time of day is probably very lucrative. You can probably be sure that once algorithms pick-up that if some fasting people are more prone to click on ads they will push more people to try intermittent fasting regardless of the effects on health.

How can that be lucrative?

Re: Effects of Intermittent Fasting on Health, Aging, and Disease [pdf]

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post #105

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Surely people can make money around it. You cannot sell a void [0] but you can very effectively sell void consulting and magazines. [0] even this is debatable

I was brainstorming with a friend about creating an alternative social environment to replace restaurants for fasters, but couldn't come up with any good ideas.

Yes, that would be great. This is a real problem for me. Especially because I don't drink coffee, either.
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