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My Semester with the Snowflakes

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Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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Previous discussion 4 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21864639

Thanks for the link - it opens up more questions after I listened a while back to the Serial podcast about Bergdahl's desertion that lead to the author's injuries.

https://serialpodcast.org/season-two

Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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> They’ll be graduating into the strongest economy in American history. They’ll be just fine. How are you forecasting that future? Seems strange to read it with what you see now and as you phrase the lost generation that's struggling from inflation & low wages.. I'm skeptical but I think the worst is yet to come for the next generations. Unless all the young adults that are struggling don't just all commit suicide in…

And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

Is there any solution in sight?

Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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> They’ll be graduating into the strongest economy in American history. They’ll be just fine. How are you forecasting that future? Seems strange to read it with what you see now and as you phrase the lost generation that's struggling from inflation & low wages.. I'm skeptical but I think the worst is yet to come for the next generations. Unless all the young adults that are struggling don't just all commit suicide in…

And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_in_Australia

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> They’ll be graduating into the strongest economy in American history. They’ll be just fine. How are you forecasting that future? Seems strange to read it with what you see now and as you phrase the lost generation that's struggling from inflation & low wages.. I'm skeptical but I think the worst is yet to come for the next generations. Unless all the young adults that are struggling don't just all commit suicide in…

And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

Why? That's weather and short term. https://aqicn.org/map/sydney is the pollution in Sydney. Here is Jakarta https://aqicn.org/map/jakarta

Look at the historical data: all red and yellow for Jakarta, almost all green for Sydney, with the last two months an exception.

Climate change is going to have little to no impact on Sydney now or in the next 50-60 years.

Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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It’s interesting how much implied context is in this: that someone old, and related to the military (presumably right-leaning from the “snowflake” term), likely distrusts/disrespects someone young and wealthy from the coasts (presumably left-leaning from geography). Are we really so polarized? Are hundreds of millions so gung-ho to flock away from the center? Can the whole American situation be approximately summed u…

Stress of life is polarizing people. Extreme conditions give rise to extreme beliefs.

Extreme conditions give rise to desperate solutions that materialize into extreme beliefs.

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And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

Why? That's weather and short term. https://aqicn.org/map/sydney is the pollution in Sydney. Here is Jakarta https://aqicn.org/map/jakarta Look at the historical data: all red and yellow for Jakarta, almost all green for Sydney, with the last two months an exception. Climate change is going to have little to no impact on Sydney now or in the next 50-60 years.

> Climate change is going to have little to no impact on Sydney now or in the next 50-60 years.

Can you expand on that statement a bit? What do you base it on? It seems like we are already seeing adverse effects of global heating (eg https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2912/satellite-data-record-sho...) but maybe I'm missing your point.

Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

Why? That's weather and short term. https://aqicn.org/map/sydney is the pollution in Sydney. Here is Jakarta https://aqicn.org/map/jakarta Look at the historical data: all red and yellow for Jakarta, almost all green for Sydney, with the last two months an exception. Climate change is going to have little to no impact on Sydney now or in the next 50-60 years.

Not sure why you chose to compare to Jakarta? The two cities haven't historically had similar air quality.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_in_Australia

Australia is a big country...

Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And no mention of the elephant in the room - climate change. It feels like we're already seeing it here in Sydney, Australia. We've had dangerously low air quality from bush fires for the last 1.5 months and we now have a serious water shortage. I've been accepting of climate change up until recently - now I'm genuinely worried about the future here.

Why? That's weather and short term. https://aqicn.org/map/sydney is the pollution in Sydney. Here is Jakarta https://aqicn.org/map/jakarta Look at the historical data: all red and yellow for Jakarta, almost all green for Sydney, with the last two months an exception. Climate change is going to have little to no impact on Sydney now or in the next 50-60 years.

How do you get from a map of the current air quality in Sydney to blithely saying climate change will have "little to no effect" on Sydney for the next 60 years?

Re: My Semester with the Snowflakes

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It’s not really “education” that changed his perspective but rather immersion in a group of people with a completely different mindset. The same could be accomplished spending time with them in a job, a volunteer group, a prison, etc. He also likely wouldn’t have changed his perspective much if he took the courses online asynchronously.

I wonder what percentage of the United States, due to time commitments related to family and work, get to spend time/immersion in groups other than their facebook/instagram tribe and television/radio broadcasters. My hunch is that it’s pretty low.

If you are part of an enormous tribe comprising virtually half the country, made up of people who think like you and more or less share your views, why would you hang out with the other tribe?
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