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Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by ddebernardy »

hef19898 wrote: post #185
privateSFacct wrote: post #134

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This also makes me laugh out loud. If Amazon gave two craps about some of this stuff it would be cut WAY back. For a few years at least every Apple branded product on amazon I bought was 100% fake - lazy fakes too. I ended up having to buy from Apple directly to get something legit. You are telling me brands haven't complained about this? I find that totally hard to believe. The crap amazon sells is going to bring th…

It seems to be less of an issue in Germany. But it is bad enough that for certain products I insist on sold and shipped by Amazon. Do, my impression is that over here it is more like a marketplace problem, for now. Also, customer service for marketplace orders is just crap.

Insofar as I've understood, buying products that are sold and shipped by Amazon doesn't protect you anymore because inventories are no longer segregated.

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Post by jlengrand »

"Our European visitors are important to us.

This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws."

-> Well, not that important that you can just stop the tracking for a second for us apparently :S.

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Post by microtonal »

abakker wrote: post #128
ng12 wrote: post #89

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I bought a product on Amazon this Christmas that was completely fake. It was "sold by Amazon" but didn't even have the same label as the brand I had ordered. I complained to Amazon and they just gave me a refund without requiring that I return the product (I ended up just throwing it out). I suspect that they knew the inventory was tainted but figured the cost of dealing with noisy customers like me is less than the…

I buy so much stuff on amazon, and have never had a fake anything. Can you give more detail? I’d love to know at least what kind of product it was.

We bought a PlayStation 3 controller on Amazon many years back. It was a pretty good fake, the buttons felt slightly different, but we thought it is just a different production run. After six months or so, Sony disabled this range of counterfeits (IIRC because the built-in battery was a fire hazard). So, we had a useless controller.

Luckily, we got a refund.

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Post by djaychela »

jlengrand wrote: post #192

"Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws." -> Well, not that important that you can just stop the tracking for a second for us apparently :S.

Funnily enough, I was just thinking exactly that - and wondering just how much tracking that site does that it's not straightforward for them to stop doing it (and/or deal with data they had previously collected).

Or is it just a knee-jerk reaction to GDPR that some non-EU companies have adopted and has now stuck?

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Post by izacus »

dmos62 wrote: post #54
ikeboy wrote: post #45

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It's that competition that brings down prices. If there was only one unique brand per product, they'd charge much more.

This isn't about the number of brands, but about confusing marketing, which in many ways is bad for true competition, because it confuses the buyer.

What kind of confusing marketing? Clocks are decorative products, having several different designs with same mechanism isn't just logical but also market working as it should. This way you can choose the clock that fits your preference and fits into your living space.

I don't quite understand this rant - it's like complaining there's toomany different paintings to choose to put on the wall.

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Post by maccard »

Jolter wrote: post #172
mrtksn wrote: post #141

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So if you are selling the absolute lowest-quality stuff, you may increase the quality of your inventory by simply giving it to amazon and request them back? Now I sympathize with Amazon, knowing how shady some merchants could be. If it's true that they do not track products by suppliers, this could be a scalable fraud. Send in absolute garbage and take it back/buy it to enrich your metarial.

What are you going to do with your "enriched" inventory? Sit on it?

Sell it on eBay as a merchant, or in a physical store.?

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Post by bencollier49 »

nikanj wrote: post #183
jcmeyrignac wrote: post #178

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LVMH (Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton) is one of the clients of the company where I work. LVMH fights hard against counterfeits. Amazon is so bad at handling counterfeits that LVMH decided to never give even one penny to Amazon, so you cannot find their products on Amazon. And the funny thing is that we cannot use AWS because of this rule!

> Amazon is so bad at handling counterfeits that LVMH decided to never give even one penny to Amazon, so you cannot find their products on Amazon. I bet I can find plenty of counterfeit ones, though

Interesting - if you search for "Louis Vuitton" on Amazon, a lot of stuff which is superficially similar appears.

Has there been any ruling on the applicability of trademark law to situations like this?

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Post by ikurei »

jlengrand wrote: post #192

"Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws." -> Well, not that important that you can just stop the tracking for a second for us apparently :S.

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Post by jlengrand »

djaychela wrote: post #194
jlengrand wrote: post #192

"Our European visitors are important to us. This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws." -> Well, not that important that you can just stop the tracking for a second for us apparently :S.

Funnily enough, I was just thinking exactly that - and wondering just how much tracking that site does that it's not straightforward for them to stop doing it (and/or deal with data they had previously collected). Or is it just a knee-jerk reaction to GDPR that some non-EU companies have adopted and has now stuck?

Both options are indeed plausible. I'd also add the "we don't get enough of those visitors that we care even taking the five minutes it would take to stop the tracking for those" or the "wow, stop tracking for a given crowd sounds diificult to achieve".
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