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Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by tessting »

privateSFacct wrote: post #134
ecommerceguy wrote: post #67

>>In a statement on its website, Amazon also said its employees “work hard every day to help ensure all products offered in our store are safe and authentic.” Bullshit. The front line employees that receive inbound product don't enforce any policy and actually Amazon encourages to deal with disputes only after a product is sold, shipped and a customer complains. That's the Bezos way. Fact. Let's discuss grocery produ…

This also makes me laugh out loud. If Amazon gave two craps about some of this stuff it would be cut WAY back. For a few years at least every Apple branded product on amazon I bought was 100% fake - lazy fakes too. I ended up having to buy from Apple directly to get something legit. You are telling me brands haven't complained about this? I find that totally hard to believe. The crap amazon sells is going to bring th…

This strikes me as very idealistic.

They are selling more than double the amount of stuff they were 5 years ago, and are over half of US ecommerece. You might care about getting a fake charger, but 90% of people don't give a crap if it's 30% cheaper than the real thing and magically appears at their house the next day.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/revenu...

I think AWS and retail/AFT are basically two different companies. I don't think what happens in one reflects on or affects the other, at all.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by certera »

muzika wrote: post #144
rladd wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a $12 Ikea clock that looks rather like a Swiss train clock (not exactly of course) and which keeps nearly perfect time and runs for over a year on one battery. It is miles better than the $5 Ikea clock, but I see no reason to pay more since the $12 one looks good and runs perfectly well.

One year on a battery is nothing to be proud of :)

Ya, but what kind of battery?

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by arkitaip »

bjornjaja wrote: post #62
ChuckMcM wrote: post #59

I'm thinking this will be one of the ways that Amazon can be "disrupted." If Walmart (for example) re-tooled their online platform such that they kept counterfeits out and rapidly identified bad actors, the trust in their platform could grow against the name recognition of Amazon. At that point Amazon would be stuck playing catch up and that makes it hard to innovate. Also, its possible a completely new brand could b…

I think they should be disrupted with a decentralized solution where people buy and produce locally. None of this garbage sold en masse

Decentralized has become the de facto nonsense solution advocated on HN to any problem, it seems.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by toast0 »

muzika wrote: post #144
rladd wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a $12 Ikea clock that looks rather like a Swiss train clock (not exactly of course) and which keeps nearly perfect time and runs for over a year on one battery. It is miles better than the $5 Ikea clock, but I see no reason to pay more since the $12 one looks good and runs perfectly well.

One year on a battery is nothing to be proud of :)

If you care about an alkaline battery powered item, it's in your interests to change the batteries once a year --- it's the easiest way to avoid battery leakage.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by 6nf »

amelius wrote: post #60
destitude wrote: post #39

Amazon has caused this to itself in order to maximize its own short-term profits. In the past 1-3 years their goal has been to reduce their own inventory by shifting it to 3rd party sellers and let them deal with the overhead of inventory. This is why counterfeits and crappy products have been proliferating on Amazon and why I have started to avoid purchasing from Amazon all-together. I wonder if they realize how muc…

In a few years, Alibaba will have a better reputation than Amazon.

It already does for me at least

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by TylerE »

oneplane wrote: post #143
TylerE wrote: post #58

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It really isn't. I used to work in IT for a newspaper. They _really_ are hyper-local. They don't went to spend a cent on even out-of-state visitors, much less out-of-continent. Resources are tight, and the ROI is non-existent.

But if a law came in to effect that requires them to not abuse customer data in their local area as well, there suddenly would be a 'ROI' on that? Seems to me they chose to simply not care about what data they collect on who from the start and it will bite them in the ass eventually.

Eventually is not today.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

tessting wrote: post #151
privateSFacct wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This also makes me laugh out loud. If Amazon gave two craps about some of this stuff it would be cut WAY back. For a few years at least every Apple branded product on amazon I bought was 100% fake - lazy fakes too. I ended up having to buy from Apple directly to get something legit. You are telling me brands haven't complained about this? I find that totally hard to believe. The crap amazon sells is going to bring th…

This strikes me as very idealistic. They are selling more than double the amount of stuff they were 5 years ago, and are over half of US ecommerece. You might care about getting a fake charger, but 90% of people don't give a crap if it's 30% cheaper than the real thing and magically appears at their house the next day. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/revenu... I think AWS and retail/AFT are basi…

People do care about fake chargers when they make their phone explode or their house burn down.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by crooked-v »

tessting wrote: post #151
privateSFacct wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This also makes me laugh out loud. If Amazon gave two craps about some of this stuff it would be cut WAY back. For a few years at least every Apple branded product on amazon I bought was 100% fake - lazy fakes too. I ended up having to buy from Apple directly to get something legit. You are telling me brands haven't complained about this? I find that totally hard to believe. The crap amazon sells is going to bring th…

This strikes me as very idealistic. They are selling more than double the amount of stuff they were 5 years ago, and are over half of US ecommerece. You might care about getting a fake charger, but 90% of people don't give a crap if it's 30% cheaper than the real thing and magically appears at their house the next day. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMZN/amazon/revenu... I think AWS and retail/AFT are basi…

> but 90% of people don't give a crap if it's 30% cheaper than the real thing and magically appears at their house the next day

...until it burns their house down.

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Post by toast0 »

didibus wrote: post #108
BeetleB wrote: post #65

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> I can still filter by vendor, at least on the European websites. At least in the US, Amazon comingles new products unless the seller requests them not to. So if you buy something shipped and sold by Amazon.com, you may be getting the one vendor ABC had shipped to Amazon's warehouses. Agree with GP. If they cared, they wouldn't comingle. Comingling saves Amazon money, though, as they don't have to track whose goods…

It doesn't. Even when commingling, they individually track each good. The only advantage is that comingling is faster and cheaper deliveries, because they can just and you the item nearest to your house.

Most goods aren't individually tracked. If I send three, and you send four of some ASIN to some distribution center, and it is a comingled SKU, to all indications, all seven items are in one bin, and can't be distinguished afterward. Having one bin instead of two saves space (and therefore cost) in the distribution center. If the goods were stored separately, even if they still did buy from any vendor and ship from the most cost effective inventory, they would be able to track down counterfeit goods much more effectively.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Post by toast0 »

dylz wrote: post #95
ikeboy wrote: post #56

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I'd mostly agree with that, with the caveat that they will often restrict particular listings or brands that got a high volume of complaints, and require proof of purchase to sell. They also flag sellers that have large sales increases in a short period of time. >It's my view that Amazon themselves should be taking action on behalf of both consumers and sellers to ensure that: 1) products are authentic, and b) consum…

I don't see why they don't require proof of purchase for every single item in their supply chain by a third party reseller, with valid, verifiable invoices issued only by the OEM.

Sellers have complained that this opens up their supply chain to be courted by Amazon.

Ex: if i sell a trendy product on amazon, then they ask me for proof of purchase, they then know who to approach to make the amazon basics version, and take the wind out of my sails.

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