I don't think it would be easy to push the switch to management: "We'd like to rewrite our React Native up to use Hippy..."
Hippy: React Native Alternative by Tencent
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why speculate on whether it is spyware? Read the source and verify it for yourself. If there is spyware I would appreciate a link to the relevant lines.
How do you read the source of a closed source library? I mean sure reverse engineering is possible but it’s a bit flippant to suggest that everyone has time to do this. Even if it did not have closed source libraries, it’s a bit much to assume everyone affected can understand the source. We already know that tencent engages in bad stuff on behalf of the Chinese government (Sesame Credit as a concrete example) so they…
> Sesame Credit as a concrete example
Sesame Credit is not a Tencent project. If you're going to get facts wrong, at least don't repeat them more than once. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21879422
> You have to wonder what their agenda is for creating this.
Career advancement for everyone on the list of contributors.
Re: Hippy: React Native Alternative by Tencent
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tencent is one of the companies responsible for China’s dystopian sesame credit scheme, for one. I would not want to contribute to any of their projects.
Sesame Credit is operated by Ant Financial, a subsidiary of Alibaba. They're a competitor to whatever credit scoring Tencent does for their forays into micro-lending.
Bringing in the Tencent credit scoring for micro-lending is muddying the issue. Possibly I’m guessing an intentional move on their part to limit the damage from their association with Sesame Credit.
As I understand it Tencent has worked closely with the Chinese government to enable its social media properties like WeChat to feed data into Sesame Credit on a massive scale. This is a project that they support and enable, and I believe in the early days they were also one of the companies that helped to develop it, regardless of who currently operates it on paper.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you read the source of a closed source library? I mean sure reverse engineering is possible but it’s a bit flippant to suggest that everyone has time to do this. Even if it did not have closed source libraries, it’s a bit much to assume everyone affected can understand the source. We already know that tencent engages in bad stuff on behalf of the Chinese government (Sesame Credit as a concrete example) so they…
> Sesame Credit as a concrete example Sesame Credit is not a Tencent project. If you're going to get facts wrong, at least don't repeat them more than once. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21879422 > You have to wonder what their agenda is for creating this. Career advancement for everyone on the list of contributors.
I believe that when it started out they were also working on it, but I’ll admit to not having a source at the moment. Would not be surprised if all evidence of their involvement has been wiped from the internet though.
In the meantime I’m pretty sure they fully cooperate with the Chinese government in supplying data to the Sesame Credit system through their social media properties like WeChat. Something that more ethical competitors like WhatsApp have refused to do.
Re: Hippy: React Native Alternative by Tencent
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, so is the US (NSA) , but people rarely suggest that packages from the US should be monitored extra closely for some reason. Of course every package used in any code that contains sensitive data should be audited along with its dependant, but I see no reason to be more afraid of this particular package than anything people happily install from npm.
There's a good reason for that: US does not really need to put backdoors in software to spy. They have the largest tech companies under their legislation and can already force them to disclose information on users. Most companies won't argue and hand over things silently. They have international agreements with a number of countries for surveillance. This means that unless an app is completely hosted, in all parts fr…
While there have been some serious breaches of trust, US companies have a track record of fighting governments openly in court to avoid sharing data with them.
Chinese companies absolutely do not have this track record. Chinese companies are essentially an extension of the heavy hand of the Chinese Communist Party.
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#67I opened a random file(HippyBridge.h[0]) and it looks very similar to React Native's RCTBridge.h[1] which leads me to believe Hippy is either a fork of React Native or heavily "inspired" by it. A lot of the comments and symbols match React Native's 1-to-1. EDIT: I've read through more of the source and compared it to React Native. Like Jarred mentioned[2] it probably started out as a fork of React Native. 0: https://…
In the bottom of their license file they have a MIT license[0]. But they only mention someone named Evan You
> Hippy-Vue and Hippy-Vue-Router is using the part of codes write by Evan You with MIT license.
My best guess is that Evan is this person [1][2]. So that still doesn't seem to fit the proper MIT license agreements if you're right, and it looks like you are.
[0] https://github.com/Tencent/Hippy/blob/master/LICENSE
Re: Hippy: React Native Alternative by Tencent
#68I opened a random file(HippyBridge.h[0]) and it looks very similar to React Native's RCTBridge.h[1] which leads me to believe Hippy is either a fork of React Native or heavily "inspired" by it. A lot of the comments and symbols match React Native's 1-to-1. EDIT: I've read through more of the source and compared it to React Native. Like Jarred mentioned[2] it probably started out as a fork of React Native. 0: https://…
In the bottom of their license file they have a MIT license[0]. But they only mention someone named Evan You > Hippy-Vue and Hippy-Vue-Router is using the part of codes write by Evan You with MIT license. My best guess is that Evan is this person [1][2]. So that still doesn't seem to fit the proper MIT license agreements if you're right, and it looks like you are. [0] https://github.com/Tencent/Hippy/blob/master/LICE…
Evan is the author or Vue.js which they also seem to have borrowed code from. A lot of the core code seems to be React Native with `s/RCT/Hippy/g` applied.
Re: Hippy: React Native Alternative by Tencent
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the bottom of their license file they have a MIT license[0]. But they only mention someone named Evan You > Hippy-Vue and Hippy-Vue-Router is using the part of codes write by Evan You with MIT license. My best guess is that Evan is this person [1][2]. So that still doesn't seem to fit the proper MIT license agreements if you're right, and it looks like you are. [0] https://github.com/Tencent/Hippy/blob/master/LICE…
Evan is the author or Vue.js which they also seem to have borrowed code from. A lot of the core code seems to be React Native with `s/RCT/Hippy/g` applied.
Yes? We are in agreement? I am saying that they recognize Evan. Which is odd that they recognize one thing and not another.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Evan is the author or Vue.js which they also seem to have borrowed code from. A lot of the core code seems to be React Native with `s/RCT/Hippy/g` applied.
Yes? We are in agreement? I am saying that they recognize Evan. Which is odd that they recognize one thing and not another.
Yes we are, just adding context for anyone reading who is unfamiliar with Evan's work.