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Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet

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Re: Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet

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Post by FpUser »

conistonwater wrote: post #139
macintux wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In September 2014, the European Parliament urged member states to consider excluding Russia from SWIFT as part of its sanctions. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/01/27/russia-to-... I don't know that statement's veracity, but it seems credible.

I now looked a bit into it, thanks for the link. I think it would make a big difference if that was a credible threat by the parliament, or if it was some random grandstanding by a politician. Given that the idea was not discussed again (all references to the issue are to the same resolution, it seems, AFAICT), it is quite likely that (a) the idea was not serious, and (b) it gave the Russian government an excuse. If…

"...it is quite likely that (a) the idea was not serious, and (b) it gave the Russian government an excuse..."

It looks like you are the one looking for excuse. Following your logic Russia should really wait until threats become very serious then be hit in the face and only then react? I think you're asking a for bit too much Kumbaya.

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Post by 0x38B »

tandr wrote: post #92
0x38B wrote: post #50

Commentary about the exercises from Russian Telegram channel ЗаТелеком (Following Telecom) [1]. Found through link on Meduza.io Google Translate with some manual editing for clarity by me. 1: https://t.me/zatelecom # 1: https://t.me/zatelecom/13046 "I got and decoded some materials from today's meeting of the Ministry of Digital Affairs on the exercises. Something tells me either a closed regime or not closed regime…

I believe in recommendations number 5 ("Leave the market...") is also marked as [sunglasses], which makes it about equivalent to /s here.

Good point, I probably should have just linked to a gist - some of the formatting and emoji didn't transfer.

Re: Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet

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Post by dang »

GhettoMaestro wrote: post #107
dang wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't post nationalistic flamebait to HN. No snarky one-liners either. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines badly and repeatedly lately. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21868444 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21853510 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21864399 If you keep doing this we're going to have to ban you again. I'd rather not, be…

Ban me. Do it, you royal faggot. Bonus points: you linked the same URL twice, you dummy. These guidelines as you selectively enforce them are a motherfucking joke and the entire site knows it. Also I was never banned, you truth-twisting faggot. Fuck off and die loser.

> you linked the same URL twice, you dummy

Fixed, thanks.

Re: Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet

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Post by pergadad »

c-smile wrote: post #100

Not sure why is this such a big deal. I can imagine that US will also disconnect itself if hostile access to critical infrastructure is at stake. China is permanently semi-connected for that matter.

But it's not about critical infrastructure, it's about control over information coming in and going out.

Re: Russia 'successfully tests' its unplugged internet

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Post by fit2rule »

azangru wrote: post #10

> Details of what the test involved were vague So we don’t know what exactly they tested. Why is this news, let alone an international one? Also, as far as I understand, what the Russians were officially saying was that they were developing fallback systems for the event if, in another bout of sanctions, Russia gets disconnected from the global internet. Which, given their standing with the international community, m…

> I am not sure why.

Thesis: a lot of conservative America have a bit of a thing for the iron wall.

Pitching it thus, as if Russia were to build its own "Great Wall of China", or perhaps putting them in the "North Korea Internet, LOL!" category, probably catches eyeballs.

Although it has to be said that there are other supposedly more free western nations that have done similar dodgy things with their Internet, and didn't quite get the hard treatment in media-at-scale, but rather more of a velvet glove... Yes, 5-eyes nation citizens, you might ought want to take a closer look at the Anglo plans for the Internet, they're not quite savoury ..

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