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Social media bots often tweet fake health claims about cannabis: study

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These comments highlight why I never feel like I fit in with other engineers.

Yikes, I know what you mean. You've got engineers, and you've got hackers... Hackers place enormous emphasis on personal liberty and sovereignty. Sometimes I feel like a hacker in an engineer's body. At any rate, I looked through your comment history and I think we would get along fine. Got a point of contact?

Re: Social media bots often tweet fake health claims about cannabis: study

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You don't have to go and look on social media, just come here to HN and say "perhaps weed is not completely safe and we should research whether it could damage the brain" to get downvoted

You'll always have to ignore large categorizations such as safe or harmful anyway, no reasonable person is saying cannabis is as safe as air (well actually some air might be worse) rather they are saying that since society is perfectly fine and acomidating of worse substances such as alcohol and tobacco it makes no sense to prohibit cannabis much less criminalize it.

> no reasonable person is saying cannabis is as safe as air (well actually some air might be worse)

Maybe none of them are reasonable, but there sure are a lot of them. I've met a lot of people who think consuming cannabis is more healthy than not consuming it. I think this is becoming a more popular viewpoint and might even become a mainstream belief in a few years.

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Do you have a source on the fact that "nobody is buying this shit"? Here in Paris the few attempts at opening CBD shops (now closed by police) were extremely popular.

My own lying eyes tell me this. Though there were a lot of takers in the Lisbon tourist location; I see literally dozens of these across the US northeast with zero customers, ever. Was just staring at the one in the Manchester NH airport. In a freaking airport! "Gee I have to get me some CBD cookies and massage oil to take on the airplane with me."

> "Gee I have to get me some CBD cookies and massage oil to take on the airplane with me."

Where they THC cookies, they'd probably make the plane flight a lot less uncomfortable with a lot of people. I'd wager they're trying to cell CBD to people who hate flying and are willing to try anything to make it less unpleasant. That their products are ineffective, at least in this application if not in general, kind of takes a backseat.

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Can you blame them? Last time I checked ginger wasn't subjected to 70 years of war on drugs propaganda. Never heard of anyone thrown in jail for consuming ginger. Maybe people want to consume a drug without being labeled and stereotyped by people who say all drugs are bad and that getting high is a sin.

Propogating false health claims doesn't help people either. I can claim that good old whisky is the cure for cold if you are mountaineering in extreme climates, but it certainly isn't going to help anyone.

From what I understand, alcohol hastens the onset of hypothermia but at the same time in some circumstances it may delay the onset of frostbite. The mechanism should be the same in either case, the dilation of blood vessels near the surface of the skin, particularly in the extremities, which leads to more heat transfer between your body and the cold environment. This warms your skin but at the expense of cooling your core.

Doctors would never dare recommend alcohol for somebody operating in the cold since it hastens hypothermia (which is deadly) to delay frostbite (which, while potentially deadly, is a less severe/immediate concern.) But, despite the aversion medical professionals have to liability, it's seems theoretically possible that there could be scenarios where consuming alcohol would be a minor net benefit (they would have to be scenarios where it's trivial to step back inside to warm up.)

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The main component of RSO actually has been studied and proven to kill cancer. You need RSO with very high THC concentration. https://youtube.com/watch?v=1miGzTwK28U

What kind of cancer? That’s like saying “RSO cures illness”. Fire cures cancer too I’d you apply it directly to just the cancer cells, but we can agree that setting a can we patient on fire isn’t exactly a worthwhile therapy. Also any actual sources aside from KillYourCancer.org? I am not saying RSO doesn’t work. Just that it has not been proven or disproven by anyone reputable.

Kinda difficult to prove and research when the criminal governments of the world make and keep a plant illegal. Yet there are some facts as shown in the above linked video mentioning research at universities in Spain and Israel showing THC kills cancer cells. Evidence of people using it and curing various forms of cancer (brain tumors, lung tumors, etc) are also everywhere on the Internet.

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Nothing with any scientific rigor. Of course I, like I'm sure everyone else, believe I have a decent "placebo detector" and to that end CBD isn't behaving like a placebo for me. But I'll try to add a little more strength to my claim for CBD not being a placebo at the original comment's supposed "low doses". I've used it in balm form to treat physical pain. I use it at ~50mg topical doses (again much lower than 600mg)…

> Nothing with any scientific rigor. Of course I, like I'm sure everyone else, believe I have a decent "placebo detector" and to that end CBD isn't behaving like a placebo for me. This statement invalidates everything that follows after. Do multiple blind trials with a control substance at varying threshold doses, then you can say whether these "feelings" are from the drug itself. Placebo creates a very real, measura…

I understand where you're coming from, but do you expect all people to discount their own experiences because they don't meet some threshold of validity? Humans don't live daily life like that. I think there's value in anecdotal data, especially when presented with the appropriate caveats. Otherwise, is my entire life a sham unless it is backed up by double blind trials?

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What kind of cancer? That’s like saying “RSO cures illness”. Fire cures cancer too I’d you apply it directly to just the cancer cells, but we can agree that setting a can we patient on fire isn’t exactly a worthwhile therapy. Also any actual sources aside from KillYourCancer.org? I am not saying RSO doesn’t work. Just that it has not been proven or disproven by anyone reputable.

Kinda difficult to prove and research when the criminal governments of the world make and keep a plant illegal. Yet there are some facts as shown in the above linked video mentioning research at universities in Spain and Israel showing THC kills cancer cells. Evidence of people using it and curing various forms of cancer (brain tumors, lung tumors, etc) are also everywhere on the Internet.

Flat earthers are everywhere on the Internet too. Does that mean the earth is flat?

Loads of things kill cancer cells if you expose cancer cells directly to them. Fire, alcohol, radiation, etc. The trick is to expose just the cancer cells to them. I agree that a lot more research could be done, but at this point we know that RSO is about as effective as ethanol at killing cancer.

As for the rest of your comment, I don’t know if you will find this place particularly friendly towards the rhetoric that there is some illegal world government controlling everything. Try /r/conspiracy.

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Nothing with any scientific rigor. Of course I, like I'm sure everyone else, believe I have a decent "placebo detector" and to that end CBD isn't behaving like a placebo for me. But I'll try to add a little more strength to my claim for CBD not being a placebo at the original comment's supposed "low doses". I've used it in balm form to treat physical pain. I use it at ~50mg topical doses (again much lower than 600mg)…

> Nothing with any scientific rigor. Of course I, like I'm sure everyone else, believe I have a decent "placebo detector" and to that end CBD isn't behaving like a placebo for me. This statement invalidates everything that follows after. Do multiple blind trials with a control substance at varying threshold doses, then you can say whether these "feelings" are from the drug itself. Placebo creates a very real, measura…

Anybody who believes in the placebo effect is not to be taken seriously. If you think you can measure the placebo effect, what did you use as your control in your double blind study? That is, your control group which did not get a placebo, but believed they were getting a placebo, how exactly did you manage that?

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Nothing with any scientific rigor. Of course I, like I'm sure everyone else, believe I have a decent "placebo detector" and to that end CBD isn't behaving like a placebo for me. But I'll try to add a little more strength to my claim for CBD not being a placebo at the original comment's supposed "low doses". I've used it in balm form to treat physical pain. I use it at ~50mg topical doses (again much lower than 600mg)…

> Nothing with any scientific rigor. Of course I, like I'm sure everyone else, believe I have a decent "placebo detector" and to that end CBD isn't behaving like a placebo for me. This statement invalidates everything that follows after. Do multiple blind trials with a control substance at varying threshold doses, then you can say whether these "feelings" are from the drug itself. Placebo creates a very real, measura…

Not all text on the internet is meant to be a scientific paper. It's totally valid to claim that something works for you without having to do "multiple blind trials with a control substance at varying threshold dose".
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