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EU beckons Indian tech talent

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Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

#32
A counterpoint to the article. As a founder in India we have recently started thinking about hiring people from EU, especially the eastern part.

If however the criteria and salary for a good programmer is EUR 42k pa as a comment below suggests, you can earn decently more than that at multiple companies, including mine.

Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

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I've firsthand noticed an increasing number of programmers from India move to countries other than the USA in the last few years mainly due to the increase in perceived difficulty of obtaining an H1B (I say perceived, because I'm not sure if it is actually harder for a well deserved non outsourcing based candidate to receive an H1B).

Yes make no mistake about it. It is difficult for people with h1bs in Facebook and google with high salaries and qualifications. Its deliberate effort. I am not saying its good or bad but the problem do exist.

yea, I've heard of horror stories of decades of wait time to get a green card.. its a horrible move IMO.

Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

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post #25

It's funny because in France, we are loosing french tech talents to the US.

From what I've heard Germany is also losing a lot of talent to the us and to Switzerland as well. Higher salaries, lower taxes, maybe even more interesting gigs. All good reasons to take the leap.

I can confirm that. My german friend just accepted a job in Sweden. He also applied for the companies in Germany but they pay really low salaries and the companies are not that insteresting.

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#36

I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…

If we follow that route, Spanish, Portuguese or Italians shouldn't be allowed to work in Germany... Germans shouldn't be allowed to work in Switzerland, etc...

Also, there are plenty of 50K-70K tech jobs in US - not everyone works in FAANG or lives in Bay Area.

Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

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post #36

I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…

If we follow that route, Spanish, Portuguese or Italians shouldn't be allowed to work in Germany... Germans shouldn't be allowed to work in Switzerland, etc... Also, there are plenty of 50K-70K tech jobs in US - not everyone works in FAANG or lives in Bay Area.

Companies in Germany already have branches in those countries and they are paying almost half for the same job.

Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

#38

I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…

Problem is, there is internal migration in Europe which you can't possibly close this way. Romania is as poor as China and has better tech talent speaking European languages a lot better. No amount of visa restrictions will protect you from that.

"hire pretty much anyone across the globe" - well only if you are prepared to pay 1.5x average salary in your country (Blue Card), so not for cheap positions, will start from some like 50000 EUR net a year in Germany for example. Otherwise it's really pain in the ass procedure to get a normal work visa, or not possible at all (in some countries).

Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

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post #36

I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…

If we follow that route, Spanish, Portuguese or Italians shouldn't be allowed to work in Germany... Germans shouldn't be allowed to work in Switzerland, etc... Also, there are plenty of 50K-70K tech jobs in US - not everyone works in FAANG or lives in Bay Area.

Besides, in tech, most of the time you get what you payed for. So if you lowball you will probably get low talent.

This is a global market, so you can also grab US jobs for half the pay and make alot of money anyway.

Re: EU beckons Indian tech talent

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post #36

I wish EU work visa restrictions would be as high as the US ones. Tech salaries in Western Europe are low enough as it is and the whole developer shortage the employers keep crying about to the media is a scam to justify lax visa restrictions for cheaper workforce from abroad. Under current conditions EU companies can hire pretty much anyone across the globe. Do you think SV salaries would be as high as they are if t…

If we follow that route, Spanish, Portuguese or Italians shouldn't be allowed to work in Germany... Germans shouldn't be allowed to work in Switzerland, etc... Also, there are plenty of 50K-70K tech jobs in US - not everyone works in FAANG or lives in Bay Area.

You're not correct. EU citizens should be allowed to work anywhere in EU member states. That's fine, it's one of the founding principles of EU membership.

The problem is when EU companies have virtually no restrictions on hiring people outside the EU putting even more downward pressure on local salaries in high COL areas.

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