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Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by Reelin »

ChrisSD wrote: post #218
BowBun wrote: post #143

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What about Go? It seems like their approach is that if they define the style guide and build it into tooling, your code style (for Go) can only be the 'approved' style. Or, put another way: People only have code styles because languages leave ambiguity. By removing that ambiguity you force your user-base to be consistent therefore increasing communication and productivity. I tend to agree. It really grinds my gears w…

Rust has grappled with the issue of how far to push styling rules. E.g. from 2016: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/1607#issuecomment-227... I think it's worth reading more of that thread for some pros and cons of being very strict with styling rules. Note that being too strict can lead to code being less readable in specific edge cases. This may or may not be considered a fair trade off.

To summarize the linked post (which I completely agree with), just provide officially recommended sane defaults and then get out of the user's way. In my view, that's how nearly all software ought to be written.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by todotask »

kimburgess wrote: post #233
todotask wrote: post #80

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I can only see 1,209 repos after using Crystal for close to a year, some are no longer maintained. https://github.com/topics/crystal There are lacking of stories around the cloud computing or any large businesses has success with Crystal. They need more of those to gain support if they don’t want to remain in “uncharted territory” which mentioned in their interview.

https://crystalshards.xyz/ is the de facto aggregator of various libs for the language.

I’m aware of this nice site, but I think you are aware Kemal threw an unfriendly message error when you reach to the last page? 100’s shards on each page is rather slow and limited options to search, I would prefer to stick to Github or self-host with Github API that supported some language.

https://crystalshards.xyz/?&sort=updated&page=11

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by olah_1 »

steveklabnik wrote: post #197
olah_1 wrote: post #171

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I have had a huge amount of issues trying to use both Ruby and Rust on Windows for server / client use cases. It's not just that it "works" on Windows, but that it works easily out of the box for common use cases. Meanwhile Python and Golang work great on Windows with no extra effort. It's like night and day.

What issues did you have with Rust? I use Rust on Windows every day.

It's been a while, but it was the common issue with certs that Ruby on Windows also has. I just couldn't get it sorted for whatever reason. Maybe it's not an issue anymore though? Rust http client works OOTB on Windows?

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by lmm »

k__ wrote: post #158
EamonnMR wrote: post #153

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Mentally context switching between Ruby and any other language to do the translation actually is kind of a hassle.

I could imagine, that the subtle differences could get you ugly problems while porting.

Won't the differences be more subtle and difficult if you use a language that's syntactically Ruby-like but not actually Ruby?

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by tstusr20190823 »

BubRoss wrote: post #182
tstusr20190823 wrote: post #99

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V have first-class Windows support, what is your problem?

My problem is that it doesn't actually work on windows. Get the latest build, run it with no arguments, get a large error instead of the REPL.

What is "latest build"? V does not release any stable build and you can get "large error" on any platform right now when trying random "latest build" without any effort to investigate the issue.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by nedp »

saagarjha wrote: post #107
kaikki wrote: post #102

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What are some? I wrote a small ascii snake game with it and found it generally OK.

It’s been somewhat overhyped by the author.

Can you give us examples where Alex "overhyped" the language? So far most of the promises he made have been fulfilled / currently work-in-progress.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by andrekandre »

hota_mazi wrote: post #31

Two things that I immediately respected about Crystal's landing page [1]: - It shows numerous code snippets covering various functionalities. Not just "Hello world" but code samples that give you a very solid flavor of the language. - Its spinning logo can be manipulated with the mouse. [1] https://crystal-lang.org/

i really like that spinning crystal; its a small thing really, but i find it very endearing

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by rishav_sharan »

shakna wrote: post #122
rishav_sharan wrote: post #103

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I am subscribed to the windows support github issue since 2013, so Crystal is definitely older than 5 years. I think its around 7 years old

The first release, 0.1.0, was in 2014. [0] [0] https://crystal-lang.org/2014/06/19/crystal-0.1.0-released.h...

First official release maybe. But folks have been using Crystal since before that. This is the Github issue in question; https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/issues/26

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by shakna »

rishav_sharan wrote: post #249
shakna wrote: post #122

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The first release, 0.1.0, was in 2014. [0] [0] https://crystal-lang.org/2014/06/19/crystal-0.1.0-released.h...

First official release maybe. But folks have been using Crystal since before that. This is the Github issue in question; https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/issues/26

Not arguing with it. However, choosing a point in time to check a language's age from is somewhat arbitrary, and first release seemed good enough.

The main point was comparative age of languages. Like OCaml which is more than two decades old compared to Crystal which is young.

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