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Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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i guess it's trendy to assume the worst, but my optimistic take is that "the machine is broken, use a different machine". maybe because encountering broken machines in public use is pretty much a daily experience for me.

the company that produces the software or the box will either notice the issue and fix it. or not and be punished by the market.

Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case, then the decision to assign it to an intern and give them 3 days, and then not to test it with a diverse set of subjects was somebody's fault and failure. If they were not an intern (or even if they were, frankly), the engineer who built it also had a responsibility to think beyond their own demographic; and if the timeline was too short to develop a properly robust system, to at least point that…

As a side point, it could also be like: would someone pay 100$ for a picture in such a machine? This is sad, but that's how you get fastfoods too

The better question is, why replace a simple photo booth that has worked flawlessly for decades for a few quarters with a machine that requires a massive investment to work properly and do the same thing? It reminds me very much of "smart toasters" and other gadgets that are extremely expensive and arguably don't work nearly as well and aren't nearly as reliable as the old appliances they are supposed to replace.

Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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Unlike the title this is for a passport photo. You can't smile in a passport photo. If you compare her lips to recommended passport photos she is more smiling. If you look at the 2nd happy looking woman here, you can see her lips are not actually in a smile as much as the twitter pic - https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-... Twitter pic has a dour expression but AI isn't fooled, it looks at li…

Or their face looks different from faces that you are used to seeing (since all people are different) and the person is in fact not smiling.

Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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Unlike the title this is for a passport photo. You can't smile in a passport photo. If you compare her lips to recommended passport photos she is more smiling. If you look at the 2nd happy looking woman here, you can see her lips are not actually in a smile as much as the twitter pic - https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-... Twitter pic has a dour expression but AI isn't fooled, it looks at li…

We don’t need more evidence. The person in the picture is not smiling and their mouth is not open.

The picture meets every criteria listed on the website you linked. It’s totally fine.

Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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People tend to think of this as horrible discriminating decisions made by some horrible people, but most likely it is a very cheap machine developed by an intern who had 3 days to make something work...

Trivially fixable even in that fairly inexcusable case: add an override button.

"by overriding you accept that this photo may ultimately be rejected for passport use."

Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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post #17
post #16

Why does a photo kiosk enforce passport photo requirements?

Because it is a photo kiosk for taking passport photos.

That doesn't clarify much. Is this some kind of official, government-sanctioned kiosk, whose approval of a photo carries some sort of final authority, and it doesn't just pass the photo on to the passport office?

Because otherwise, it would work just fine without this enforcement functionality.

Re: Today I was unable to take a picture in a photo kiosk

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post #19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it is a photo kiosk for taking passport photos.

That doesn't clarify much. Is this some kind of official, government-sanctioned kiosk, whose approval of a photo carries some sort of final authority, and it doesn't just pass the photo on to the passport office? Because otherwise, it would work just fine without this enforcement functionality.

Submitting a bad photo with your passport application can really suck. It delays things a lot and potentially even costs you a submission fee.

The point of passport photo services is to mimic (or try to) the official government photo reviewers criteria. That's the value it provides. Learning that you will be rejected quickly rather than slowly.

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