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Tesla's stock just hit a record $420

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Re: Tesla's stock just hit a record $420

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

Animats wrote: post #83

Tesla finally seems to be focusing on building cars in volume. Not making heavy-truck prototypes. Not talking about "transportation as a service". Not claiming self-driving. Just making electric cars at a profit. That's good for the stock price.

>Tesla finally seems to be focusing on building cars in volume.

That has always been the case. Perhaps you meant "Media and markets know focus on Tesla's building cars in volume". It takes time to build plants, install machine them and organize the whole logistics/delivery part. They've always been focusing on this, and had to run the show so people would be ready to take delivery by the time they reach mass production.

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Post by sbierwagen »

marvin wrote: post #88
sbierwagen wrote: post #86

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CHAdeMO is only for fast charging, which manufacturers say you should only do occasionally. (It's hard on the battery pack.) The Nissan Leaf comes with a CHAdeMO and (at least in NA) and a J1772 plug for routine slow charging.

Does this mean that if you don’t drive a Tesla, you have to make a conscious decision whether you’ll charge fast or slowly, or you’ll damage your battery pack over tine?

Fast chargers cost more to use, so you only use them when you have to. https://www.blinkcharging.com/ev-charging-fee

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Post by spullara »

spike021 wrote: post #87
ecpottinger wrote: post #73

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Yet the Tesla does 375 miles with a 100 kWh battery. Do the math.

Like I said, for decades different cars have had different EPA. I'm not sure why in this case it should be some special factor.

If it was higher performance or something maybe? But an inferior performing car with worse mileage doesn't seem great.

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Post by spike021 »

spullara wrote: post #94
spike021 wrote: post #87

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Like I said, for decades different cars have had different EPA. I'm not sure why in this case it should be some special factor.

If it was higher performance or something maybe? But an inferior performing car with worse mileage doesn't seem great.

How is it "an inferior performing car" aside from lower mileage? Any sources? Genuinely curious.

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Post by perl4ever »

jayd16 wrote: post #44
creato wrote: post #33

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This sounds nice for Tesla, but it sounds utterly insane from a greater perspective that EVs can't charge at any electric charging station. How stupid does it sound if I said I needed to find a Ford gas station to fill up my car?

Gas stations do have different octane ratings and diesel. Every station just happens to have at least 4 options these days.

Gas stations, I think, are required to post prices on signs, be regularly inspected to make sure they are providing the quality and amount of product they are supposed to, and don't require you to click through an EULA. I don't have the impression that this is the way chargers work.

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Post by perl4ever »

voodooranger wrote: post #75
mprev wrote: post #55

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I’ve had my Model 3 just over a week. It’s great. I love it. But I can’t wait to get an EV in a few years from a mature manufacturer. I hope that mature manufacturer will be Tesla. Right now, though, after sales care is pretty much non-existant, I have rattles that I didn’t have in a car with over 100k on the clock, the handover was chaotic and rushed, the interior is cheap. Even so, I have no regrets. And I’ll recom…

I have a Mazda 6. I would say that Mazda is a mature manufacturer. Yet the Mazda, which I purchased brand new from the factory, sight unseen (big mistake), shook at high speeds (I found out later due to a warped brake rotor), sounded like the windows were cracked at all times and you couldn’t ever roll them all the way up (for which Mazda issues a TSB years later), pulled to the right because it came off the truck ou…

Lemon law?

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Post by msh »

spike021 wrote: post #47
martythemaniak wrote: post #12

The stock is blazing! Weed jokes aside, the market has finally caught up to the fact that Tesla is years ahead of their competitors. I bought my Model 3 18 months ago and it felt like buying a car from the future. I think my feeling was correct. 2019 saw a number of serious competitors (Audi, MB, VW, Porche) release their first EVs and they've all been somewhat disappointing. Very solid first releases taken in isolat…

What part of the Porsche Taycan has been disappointing when compared to Tesla? My only complaint is the price, but it's a Porsche so what can I do?

Pricewise i don't think you can compare it to the standard tesla (s an d m), it's in a different league.

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Post by op00to »

creato wrote: post #33
stoicShell wrote: post #29

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Here's what most surprised me recently, which compounds all your points. Middle of Nowhere, France, 11 AM. My Uber arrives, a cool Model 3, "huh, great!" I thought, "I'm gonna pry this guy's brain for info on EV's." Sure thing the driver was a talker and over the course of the next 20 minutes proceeded to tell me all the good and bad, in his opinion — it was his 3rd or 4th EV. Tesla is "out of this world" — his words…

This sounds nice for Tesla, but it sounds utterly insane from a greater perspective that EVs can't charge at any electric charging station. How stupid does it sound if I said I needed to find a Ford gas station to fill up my car?

They can charge, just slowly. I think the driver was saying that he can change free on faster chargers, maybe?

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Post by ryanmercer »

perl4ever wrote: post #96
jayd16 wrote: post #44

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Gas stations do have different octane ratings and diesel. Every station just happens to have at least 4 options these days.

Gas stations, I think, are required to post prices on signs, be regularly inspected to make sure they are providing the quality and amount of product they are supposed to, and don't require you to click through an EULA. I don't have the impression that this is the way chargers work.

And you can refuel much faster. I can fill my entire tank in less than 2 minutes, to get the same mileage with a car I'd be looking at an hour (if not longer). I spend less than 2 minutes a week getting gas and as a renter I can't install charging at home, and work doesn't have any charging options, meaning I'd be sitting around an 30-60 minutes a week at a charging station twiddling my thumbs. Also the cheapest Tesla is more than I gross annually. You just can't beat that time savings, I've got better things to do than driving way out of my way to find a charging location, hope a fast charging is available, park and sit there for ten minutes or more while right now in my 15 minute commute I pass 8 gas stations, that can all provide me fuel, that are all much faster.

EVs are never going to get widespread adoption until old apartments start getting torn down and replaced with new-construction apartments that have charging at every spot as a quick Google query shows something like 39 million people in the United States live in apartments with one article claiming:

>Apartment rentals will make up 27 percent of all new housing units built in 2018 and 2019. [1]

And the simple fact is, apartment owners are cheap. They generally use the cheapest appliances, the cheapest carpet, the cheapest fixtures... you think they're going to start shelling out even 1-2k$ per parking spot? Even if they added a surcharge of a few cents a kWh it would probably take them 3-5 years to recover their cost because people will charge elsewhere from time to time, and not everyone will drive an EV so some will sit unused for potentially years.

[1] https://www.nreionline.com/multifamily/apartment-rentals-now...

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