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How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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So something I saw with shortening now (to include Crisco) is that it now is mainly palm oil, which has been fairly controversial due to deforestation:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/palm-oil-health-imp...

I have actually gone to using lard/ghee now for myself instead of shortening. It also seemed to be cheaper as well, to my surprise.

I'm curious what other's think?

EDIT: I meant lard is cheaper, not Ghee. Upon a brief search, there are brands of vegetable shoterning that claim to be environmentally sustainable.

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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Pretty amazing this entire article never mentions trans fats.. which cause approx 500,000 premature deaths worldwide each year. For decades, Original Crisco had four grams of trans fat per tablespoon.

Hydrogenation itself creates trans fats, original Crisco sounds pretty unhealthy

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell Crisco, while popular in the US, doesn't appear to be widespread or common outside the US. Yeah, after looking up many Spanish Christmas cookie recipes, I was surprised that almost all of them use lard. I have too many vegetarian friends for lard to be an option for me. I generally sub butter for lard, but maybe I'll make a private batch of polvorones with lard for myself some time to see if ther…

i'm confused as to why polvorones was italicized

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Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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The agro-industrial complex in general convinced Americans to buy trademark branded products instead of real food

You're giving the marketing department way too much credit in my opinion.

Pretty much all of these highly processed foods are highly processed in order to reduce cost in some way (e.g. increasing shelf life, decrease storage requirements, use a substitute ingredient, remove the need for some other product, etc). All the finicky bits of producing food (e.g handling ingredients that are much less shelf stable than the final product) and abstracts that away to some factory somewhere. All of this seems like you're getting something for nothing if you don't know it's unhealthy.

The technology and processes used to create stuff that is recognizable as "modern industrial food" were mostly developed and matured over the late 1800s and early 1900s. For reasons that should be immediately obvious cheap and shelf stable became highly sought after traits for ingredients in the 1930s and 1940s. Likewise a generation of people grew up seeing their parents shoe-horn products like Crisco into use cases formerly reserved for other more natural ingredients. Considering that they grew up on it it's no surprise they stocked their 1950s and 60s cupboards and pantries with the sorts of products that they were familiar with from their youth.

Of course marketing is icing on the cake but things, like cooking habits, that you generally learn from your parents are generally resistant to fast change without some sort of strong outside motivation.

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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For the last 5 years we have made our own lard and use as little processed oil as possible. Our health has improved, we have lost weight and generally been very healthy. We also add very little sugar to our diet. Processed foods are generally bad for health, its been quite difficult to find food that is free of these harmful oils

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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The agro-industrial complex in general convinced Americans to buy trademark branded products instead of real food

You're giving the marketing department way too much credit in my opinion. Pretty much all of these highly processed foods are highly processed in order to reduce cost in some way (e.g. increasing shelf life, decrease storage requirements, use a substitute ingredient, remove the need for some other product, etc). All the finicky bits of producing food (e.g handling ingredients that are much less shelf stable than the…

I think Chris Kimball of America's test kitchen spoke on this, one of the other big reasons that American's went from lard to Vegetable shortening was because lard is used in ammunition, so in world war II, much of the production of lard went to the war effort, so folks started to use shortening instead.

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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post #11

So something I saw with shortening now (to include Crisco) is that it now is mainly palm oil, which has been fairly controversial due to deforestation: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/palm-oil-health-imp... I have actually gone to using lard/ghee now for myself instead of shortening. It also seemed to be cheaper as well, to my surprise. I'm curious what other's think? EDIT: I meant lard is cheaper, not Ghee.…

why do you need such shortenings, can't you use the original version of all the shortening... butter? I have never seen "shortenings" in france. pastries is done with butter and that's all.

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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post #11

So something I saw with shortening now (to include Crisco) is that it now is mainly palm oil, which has been fairly controversial due to deforestation: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/palm-oil-health-imp... I have actually gone to using lard/ghee now for myself instead of shortening. It also seemed to be cheaper as well, to my surprise. I'm curious what other's think? EDIT: I meant lard is cheaper, not Ghee.…

Not only that, but fully hydrogenated oils are supposed to be quite bad for you. I think. It’s really hard to keep current on nutrition debates and “healthy” is a fairly nebulous concept when it comes to food.

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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post #11

So something I saw with shortening now (to include Crisco) is that it now is mainly palm oil, which has been fairly controversial due to deforestation: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/palm-oil-health-imp... I have actually gone to using lard/ghee now for myself instead of shortening. It also seemed to be cheaper as well, to my surprise. I'm curious what other's think? EDIT: I meant lard is cheaper, not Ghee.…

why do you need such shortenings, can't you use the original version of all the shortening... butter? I have never seen "shortenings" in france. pastries is done with butter and that's all.

Depends on the recipe I want to use. Tortillas call for lard, and I don't think butter would be a good substitute on that. (Actually, I think the only reason I have lard/shortening is to make flour tortillas)

But you are correct, I would prefer to use butter when I can!

EDIT: My parents are also vegan, and I like to cook with them. So I also use it then.

Re: How Crisco Made Americans Believers in Industrial Food

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For the last 5 years we have made our own lard and use as little processed oil as possible. Our health has improved, we have lost weight and generally been very healthy. We also add very little sugar to our diet. Processed foods are generally bad for health, its been quite difficult to find food that is free of these harmful oils

Oils, be it rapeseed/canola, olive, sunflower, basically any seed-oils are just about the same level of processed as homemade lard.
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