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Re: Misery in the Head

#11

Post by obituary_latte »

jcelerier wrote: post #8
obituary_latte wrote: post #2

Interesting read. Frustrating to see that migraines are still underfunded and under-researched. If you have ever experienced a migraine, you likely share my frustration. It is about as indescribable an affliction as anything can be. The overwhelming and crippling pain is something hard to convey to someone who hasn’t experienced it first hand. It also seems that everyone experiences them slightly differently. I typic…

> If you have ever experienced a migraine, ... do you mean that there are some people who don't ?

Not sure if you are being serious or not, but yes, not everyone gets migraines. From the first line in the linked story:

>Migraine affects one in seven of the world’s population – approximately a billion people

Re: Misery in the Head

#12

Post by obituary_latte »

dan00 wrote: post #4
obituary_latte wrote: post #2

Interesting read. Frustrating to see that migraines are still underfunded and under-researched. If you have ever experienced a migraine, you likely share my frustration. It is about as indescribable an affliction as anything can be. The overwhelming and crippling pain is something hard to convey to someone who hasn’t experienced it first hand. It also seems that everyone experiences them slightly differently. I typic…

Have you already examined if it’s diet related? I’m thinking about a histamine intolerance.

Yes. I have yet to find a diet that quells the attacks unfortunately. I had hope it might be sodium related, but cutting it out of my diet (mostly) had no noticeable effect.

Re: Misery in the Head

#13

Post by burnte »

GlenTheMachine wrote: post #5

I’m a chronic migraine sufferer. I’ve had them at least since I was five. I strongly suspect that “migraine” is not a single disease. In fact I suspect that my migraines aren’t all the same thing. The headaches I get now are far different than the ones I got when I was five. Then, I’d get a dual-sided headache followed within an hour by the extreme nausea. Once I threw up I could sleep; the pain would be gone the nex…

I've had them since I was very young too. When I was a child they were accompanied by really high fevers, up to 105F and would last for two to three days, where I'd just mostly sleep in misery (they'd make me incredibly tired and sleepy). The doctors would check for meningitis with spinal taps, they'd check for encephalopathy, tumors, anything they could think of, nothing ever came back positive. I was put on inderal for a while, but that didn't really do anything. I'd have one every year or so, then since my teens I've only had one every few years. The past few years though I'm back to the yearly migraine, but no fever and they only last a day.

I'm not entirely convinced they're not just a side effect of our enhanced cognition, something like a problematic feedback loop, maybe even something related to epilepsy. The bigger the brain, the more than can go wrong.

Re: Misery in the Head

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Post by csomar »

Interesting the article doesn't talk about nicotine. Nicotine was my savior from one sided-headaches that accentuated by continued computer and screen abuse.

I have found nicotine to be a major relief and hardly addictive (though this is probably very person-specific, so tread carefully). I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours without my vape device close.

Sometimes I wonder if smokers are actually addicted or suffer from other unrelated-pain that makes them reliant on nicotine for relief.

Re: Misery in the Head

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Post by allovernow »

csomar wrote: post #14

Interesting the article doesn't talk about nicotine. Nicotine was my savior from one sided-headaches that accentuated by continued computer and screen abuse. I have found nicotine to be a major relief and hardly addictive (though this is probably very person-specific, so tread carefully). I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours withou…

>I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours without my vape device close

Be careful, I was in your shoes until I started vaping and the convenience can make you a constant user, until one day vaping is such a part of your daily habits that you're an addict.

Also if you're vaping custom juices and not something commercial like Juul, you're probably consuming a different form of nicotine which isn't as effective or addictive - though at some point I expect custom juices to switch to nicotine salts as well, if they haven't already. Point is the nicotine in salt form is much stronger - you'll notice that Juul hits more like a cigarette, even with far less vapor.

Point is don't make the mistake I made and forget that you're playing with fire. Granted there's nothing yet to suggest that vaping clean nicotine/of/vg is harmful...

Re: Misery in the Head

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Post by jotm »

csomar wrote: post #14

Interesting the article doesn't talk about nicotine. Nicotine was my savior from one sided-headaches that accentuated by continued computer and screen abuse. I have found nicotine to be a major relief and hardly addictive (though this is probably very person-specific, so tread carefully). I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours withou…

Addiction to nicotine... yeah it's real, and cigarettes are more addictive. It's an urge to have a smoke, coupled with sometimes severe withdrawal symptoms (I can't focus for shit, am extremely angry, for days, then tired for weeks when I try quitting). I'm vaping now and it's easier on my body it seems, no more random coughing or brain fog.

Re: Misery in the Head

#17

Post by FreeFull »

burnte wrote: post #13
GlenTheMachine wrote: post #5

I’m a chronic migraine sufferer. I’ve had them at least since I was five. I strongly suspect that “migraine” is not a single disease. In fact I suspect that my migraines aren’t all the same thing. The headaches I get now are far different than the ones I got when I was five. Then, I’d get a dual-sided headache followed within an hour by the extreme nausea. Once I threw up I could sleep; the pain would be gone the nex…

I've had them since I was very young too. When I was a child they were accompanied by really high fevers, up to 105F and would last for two to three days, where I'd just mostly sleep in misery (they'd make me incredibly tired and sleepy). The doctors would check for meningitis with spinal taps, they'd check for encephalopathy, tumors, anything they could think of, nothing ever came back positive. I was put on inderal…

Given the fever, it could also be something related to the immune system.

Re: Misery in the Head

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Post by csomar »

allovernow wrote: post #15
csomar wrote: post #14

Interesting the article doesn't talk about nicotine. Nicotine was my savior from one sided-headaches that accentuated by continued computer and screen abuse. I have found nicotine to be a major relief and hardly addictive (though this is probably very person-specific, so tread carefully). I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours withou…

>I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours without my vape device close Be careful, I was in your shoes until I started vaping and the convenience can make you a constant user, until one day vaping is such a part of your daily habits that you're an addict. Also if you're vaping custom juices and not something commercial like Juul, you'r…

> one day vaping is such a part of your daily habits that you're an addict.

You mean the very act of vaping and not the nicotine itself. I can very much relate to that.

Here are a few tricks I found that can reduce it:

- Put the kit in the car. Helps more if the car is in under-ground or far and it's cold outside.

- Don't always put your kit on the charger. Intentionally, forget charging it and don't have two batteries.

- Buy a 30ml bottle at a time. It helps more if the dealer you are buying from is far. You'll ration your vaping with that because then you'll have to go all the way to buy the next bottle.

And yeah I'm not aware yet of nicotine salt and I use a very low concentration in my liquid. I don't think I'm going to switch the current setup is just fine.

Re: Misery in the Head

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Post by GlenTheMachine »

FreeFull wrote: post #17
burnte wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had them since I was very young too. When I was a child they were accompanied by really high fevers, up to 105F and would last for two to three days, where I'd just mostly sleep in misery (they'd make me incredibly tired and sleepy). The doctors would check for meningitis with spinal taps, they'd check for encephalopathy, tumors, anything they could think of, nothing ever came back positive. I was put on inderal…

Given the fever, it could also be something related to the immune system.

Yeah, fever is a very unusual symptom to be related to “regular” migraines. Something else was going on there probably.

But who knows? Maybe unusual electrical activity in the brain can cause increased core temp?

Re: Misery in the Head

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Post by csomar »

jotm wrote: post #16
csomar wrote: post #14

Interesting the article doesn't talk about nicotine. Nicotine was my savior from one sided-headaches that accentuated by continued computer and screen abuse. I have found nicotine to be a major relief and hardly addictive (though this is probably very person-specific, so tread carefully). I could go on for a month without smoking but if I'm working with a computer, I could not pull off more than a couple hours withou…

Addiction to nicotine... yeah it's real, and cigarettes are more addictive. It's an urge to have a smoke, coupled with sometimes severe withdrawal symptoms (I can't focus for shit, am extremely angry, for days, then tired for weeks when I try quitting). I'm vaping now and it's easier on my body it seems, no more random coughing or brain fog.

> Addiction to nicotine... yeah it's real

I think the effects differ from person to person though on average it might be addictive. For example, caffeine at night makes me sleepy.

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