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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by cvshepherd »

bloopernova wrote: post #11

While I know that I'll never be able to sit down with the intelligence analysts who looked at this video and sensor information, I really wish I could convene some sort of group to do just that. I'd love to see some calculations on how much energy this UFO would have needed to perform the maneuvers it did. Whether there were any observable atmospheric effects like a wake even though there was no exhaust seen. Did it…

this recent article might have an answer or two for you:

Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/201908.0233/v1

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by krtkush »

djsumdog wrote: post #61
blhack wrote: post #34

Imagine trying to explain some fancy load balancing AWS deployment to somebody who has never used a computer beyond a flip phone. It would be completely foreign. That’s me (and also nearly everybody here) with regards to aviation and war making aviation machines. So while these articles and stories are definitely interesting, they might as well be fairy tales. The way our minds are reconstructing these things, and th…

Joe Rogan did a great Podcast with one of the pilots in this incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ Here's a short clip from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnIG-i2WCfg He's really knowledgeable, has a ton of flight experience and carefully details everything his and the other pilots see from their aircraft.

Fighter Pilot Podcast had him too. It was great to listen to - https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/episodes/035-ufos/

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by justinclift »

meddlepal wrote: post #24
justinclift wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Aliens would be cool ... Wouldn't that depend on capabilities and intentions?

They'd still be cool even if they were here to strip mine our planet, anally probe us, and then enslave our species... it would just be a kind of shitty situation all in all though.

We definitely have different definitions of "cool". ;)

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by cvshepherd »

monk_e_boy wrote: post #59
CyanLite2 wrote: post #54

So let me get this straight: We believe an alien civilization has traveled across the galaxy with faster-than-light technology, and has deployed aircraft that has broken our known laws of physics. But is susceptible to 1970s-era infrared radar technology? Okay. Got it.

Maybe they don't care if we see them?

or maybe they want to be seen. either to gauge our reaction, or for the same reasons we want our own areal craft to be visible: to help avoid collisions.

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Post by criddell »

awb wrote: post #33
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

I don't think they would operate in areas where training is taking place without notifying the pilots in the area that they are also operating there. The risk of collision is too high (and there apparently was at least one very close call).

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Post by Tistel »

I have heard a couple of podcasts that had some very credible US pilots talking about this. I think detecting life on other planets or aliens here would be great (so long as they are not trying to kill me yada yada). But, the most down to earth explanation is signal/sensor warfare testing.

Bare with me for a moment. The web is part of the sensor array of a spider. There are species of insects that tap on spider's webs to send a false positive signal to the spider on the web that a tasty prey has become trapped. The spider goes over to where on the web the vibrations indicated the prey is trapped and bang the spider gets killed by the assassin bug. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-11628322

There is some evidence these signal warfare systems are being developed: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29505/the-navys-secret...

I think these are newest iterations of the Wild Weasel style of counter weapons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Weasel

they could make drones go a fuel wasting wild goose chases etc. Or make the other sides drone defend the eastern front while you fly in from the west etc.

more signal warfare stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nulka

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by criddell »

willis936 wrote: post #23

Anytime I try to pursue the UFO question I feel like I’m being intentionally gaslighted by government agencies. The public-ish analysis of UFOs, AATIP is an incredible farce. They focused on star trek warp drives and after the funding dried up they started hanging out with Blink 182 to smoke weed and pat each other on the back for being crazy alien believers. These aren’t sound scientific minds that are capable of an…

> I struggle to even come up with narratives as to why this specific case would be made public.

Lots of people are talking about it. What's the problem with them also saying "yeah this happened and we have no idea what it is". It seems to me that the truth is probably exactly that.

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Post by newnewpdro »

CyanLite2 wrote: post #54

So let me get this straight: We believe an alien civilization has traveled across the galaxy with faster-than-light technology, and has deployed aircraft that has broken our known laws of physics. But is susceptible to 1970s-era infrared radar technology? Okay. Got it.

While I don't think these UFOs are anything alien in nature at all, it's worth noting that we make absolutely zero effort to hide our space exploration probes and rovers from potential discovery.
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