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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by sambull »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

There is definitely some sort of disinformation campaign, I guess its aimed at other nations. [0]

I'm guessing this is part of the campaign, or else maybe alien tech? [1] I'll assume its to make someone else think we have tech we may not have.

[0] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29232/navys-advanced-a...

[1] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjwkw/bob-lazar-says-the...

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by thdrdt »

mattlondon wrote: post #7

What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.

There is a Joe Rogan podcast with David Fravor, a pilot who also saw it. I believe he explains it's all visual locking but there are a lot if different camera types.

https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by awb »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in.

Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it.

It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation.

One counter point is usually: If we had tech this amazing, we'd be putting it to use commercially. However this tech might be autonomous and might need to be considering the G forces supposedly at play.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by blhack »

Imagine trying to explain some fancy load balancing AWS deployment to somebody who has never used a computer beyond a flip phone. It would be completely foreign.

That’s me (and also nearly everybody here) with regards to aviation and war making aviation machines. So while these articles and stories are definitely interesting, they might as well be fairy tales. The way our minds are reconstructing these things, and the way the mind of somebody involved in the relevant fields here (whatever they even are!) are likely very different.

That all said: if somebody has a link to any more well informed discussions about this, I sure would love a link!

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by dharmab »

mattlondon wrote: post #7

What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.

Combination of IR contrast, sensor slaving and manual tracking, configured by the pilot as needed. The DCS flight simulator series has a pretty decent targeting pod simulation.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by newnewpdro »

kitteh wrote: post #16
mattlondon wrote: post #7

What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.

No active radar. All the tracking pods have FLIR/CCDs on them that allow tracking of objects (which I believe is based upon contrasting white hot / black hot returns). A "point track" for example would allow you to track an object on the ground as it is moving (important when using laser guided ordinance where the beam has to follow it).

nit: ordnance

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by whatshisface »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #27
seiferteric wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I believe what they saw was some sort of test of a FLIR defeating tech. Like an IR laser projection from a sub launched drone. It explains why it could move so fast and have no propulsion, it was just a laser dot moving around the sky and he was the cat chasing it around.

I’m not sure how you can project anything into space that would be seen with continuity by both man and machine to look and act the same (keep in mind IR and visible light have different properties). If you’ve ever played with a laser pointer you’ll know what I mean: it drives the cat crazy when it jumps/skips/disappears because now it’s being projected on a different plane of surface (in the air: a different cloud o…

Take a look at the Bragg curve. This explains it: https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by willis936 »

willis936 wrote: post #23

Anytime I try to pursue the UFO question I feel like I’m being intentionally gaslighted by government agencies. The public-ish analysis of UFOs, AATIP is an incredible farce. They focused on star trek warp drives and after the funding dried up they started hanging out with Blink 182 to smoke weed and pat each other on the back for being crazy alien believers. These aren’t sound scientific minds that are capable of an…

To add onto this: Is this behavior reasonable for an alien species? I think so. It could be a probe to evaluate the behavior and technology of society on Earth. They could detect military response times, if they get greeted with missiles, hugs, or observations, etc. Keeping tabs on neighbors may be a good way to slowly initiate peaceful contact with another planet.

Another question to ask ourselves is “how much evidence is enough to convince ourselves that aliens exist?” Namely: is this FLIR video enough?

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by rolltiide »

lammalamma25 wrote: post #21
rolltiide wrote: post #14

What about the patent based on this observation filed and granted to the Secretary of the Navy? https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en

I think Occam's Razor says a good lawyer convinced the patent office to make a bad decision. Could be wrong, but this is easily explained by incompetence.

What's the issue with this patent? It is a parallel construction of what was observed without the prior observation being specific enough for prior art.

And if there was to be coercion or convincing, the US Navy Secretary would be good enough you'd think?

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