UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#2I want to believe.
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#3The Independent is simply rehashing an article in New York Magazine: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/tic-tac-ufo-video-q-a...
Would be better to link to the source, surely?
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#4Aliens would be cool but I highly doubt it. In my opinion from all I heard and read it really sounds like an unknown weather phenomenon.
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#5Aliens would be cool but I highly doubt it. In my opinion from all I heard and read it really sounds like an unknown weather phenomenon.
The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#6something smells fishy. He never looked at the object with his own eyes. C'mon. How can you not verify with your own eyes whether this thing was real or not? He says he was trying to capture the best video for later analysis. He couldn't have just glanced at the object for a second to make visual confirmation?
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#7What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object.
Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#8something smells fishy. He never looked at the object with his own eyes. C'mon. How can you not verify with your own eyes whether this thing was real or not? He says he was trying to capture the best video for later analysis. He couldn't have just glanced at the object for a second to make visual confirmation?
These military jets use what are effectively stabilized infrared telescopes, capable of tracking flying objects many miles away — long before human biological vision has any hope of seeing them.
This is crucial because modern aerial warfare involves missile armaments effective at these distances, so much of it is a game of who can find and acquire a target lock on their enemy first.
These phenomena are interesting because (1) multiple sensor systems from multiple platforms/locations consistently tracked the object in ways that corroborate each other, and (2) other pilots have actually flown close enough to report visual contact.
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#9something smells fishy. He never looked at the object with his own eyes. C'mon. How can you not verify with your own eyes whether this thing was real or not? He says he was trying to capture the best video for later analysis. He couldn't have just glanced at the object for a second to make visual confirmation?
He explained that.
> No. I was more concentrated on looking at the FLIR. It was inside of 20 miles. You’re not going to see it with your own eyes until probably 10 miles, and then you’re not going to be able to visually track it until you’re probably inside of five miles, which is where Dave Fravor said he saw it.
These are trained military pilots. Our eyes can’t see an object like that twenty miles out. If the system has a lock and it tells you it’s that far away, you don’t waste time and lose focus by trying to see for yourself something you already know you won’t be able to make out with the naked eye.
Additionally, it’s not as if no one saw it with their naked eye. Fravor’s word is as as good as his, and he says saw it. The value here is in the fact that this pilot is telling you he was watching the machines confirm what his colleague had seen. I take man + machine as a harder proof than two men, and not much less than 2 men + machine.
Edit: also seen by the squadron commanding officer:
> And it was also seen, via eyeballs, by both my commanding officer, Dave Fravor, and the Marine Corps Hornet squadron commanding officer who was out there as well.
So, yeah. Two men + machine, rather than three men + machine.
What I find more interesting is that NORAD didn’t debrief him, which means they either knew who was behind it or were already tracking it separately and knew what they needed to know (both very possible). Or perhaps since everything he saw and all his maneuvers were better documented in the real-time system logs dump and FLIR capture than he would be able to reliably recall, there was literally nothing he could add.
Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years
#10Aliens would be cool but I highly doubt it. In my opinion from all I heard and read it really sounds like an unknown weather phenomenon.
> Aliens would be cool ...
Wouldn't that depend on capabilities and intentions?