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U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by tpxl »

cobookman wrote: post #25
thrower123 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By now, I'd be relatively certain that all but the absolute blackest sites are mapped comprehensively with publicly available app data.

wouldn't surprise me if the military makes you strip naked, put your clothes in a microwave, then put them back on before getting on the plane to the black site. Each and every time. Anything less than such ridiculous methods would be insecure. You can literally embed chips in the fabric of your clothing. https://www.rfidjournal.com/articles/view?11587

... Why would you not simply issue them new clothes instead of (potentially dangerously) microwaving theirs?

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by derefr »

tpxl wrote: post #111
cobookman wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn't surprise me if the military makes you strip naked, put your clothes in a microwave, then put them back on before getting on the plane to the black site. Each and every time. Anything less than such ridiculous methods would be insecure. You can literally embed chips in the fabric of your clothing. https://www.rfidjournal.com/articles/view?11587

... Why would you not simply issue them new clothes instead of (potentially dangerously) microwaving theirs?

How would they sanitize the clothes they already gave them when they leave and return?

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by allovernow »

tpxl wrote: post #111
cobookman wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn't surprise me if the military makes you strip naked, put your clothes in a microwave, then put them back on before getting on the plane to the black site. Each and every time. Anything less than such ridiculous methods would be insecure. You can literally embed chips in the fabric of your clothing. https://www.rfidjournal.com/articles/view?11587

... Why would you not simply issue them new clothes instead of (potentially dangerously) microwaving theirs?

Because it's the military so everything technical is done/designed obtusely...although your idea is more in line with typical financial/resource wastefulness so it wouldn't surprise me either!

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by dang »

t1297iuqwdhq wrote: post #94
dang wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't post nationalistic flamebait to HN. It leads to flamewars, which we're trying to avoid here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Trying to keep the social harmony to benefit the 1% like Mr Paul Graham?

Trying to keep this place interesting to benefit the community. HN's mandate is to serve the curious. Rage has important functions, but that is not one.

I've posted countless comments explaining this from many angles. If you're interested, there's lots of opportunity to learn what this site is for and why we moderate it the way we do. Here's a recent one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21832654.

Lots more in places like this:

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Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by m0zg »

It's absurd that _any_ non-sanctioned software was ever allowed on US Navy phones, let alone apps developed by a major adversary known for pervasive metadata collection. WTF kind of total and utter incompetence is this? Sounds to me like a major house cleaning is needed.

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by [deleted] »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #102
angry_octet wrote: post #21

Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

> App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. Yeah, this is really bizarre to me. I was trying to check on volume levels through walls in my apartment, so I wanted to find some random decibel measuring app and lock it down so I don't have to worry too much about trusting it. But somehow Apple's permission model, which provides a whole pile of privilege switch…

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Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by llampx »

apk-d wrote: post #32
angry_octet wrote: post #21

Doesn't matter, they have it on their personal phone. App security is so bad that you pretty much need to virtualize the phone and feed it fake sensor data. The whole idea of unrestricted network access is stupid.

Installing a firewall app and checking the connection log on my Android phone really spooked me. There's a ton of traffic in the background that shouldn't be there. It's absolutely crazy that Android doesn't have a first party firewall or the ability to disable internet access permission per app, but that would impact Google's ad revenue, so of course we can't have that.

It depends on the OS. Huawei's EMUI has a built-in firewall which can restrict access over Wi-Fi or cellular data to certain apps.

Re: U.S. Navy bans TikTok from government-issued mobile devices

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dang wrote: post #88
Phylter wrote: post #35

They need to ban Chinese anything from US government anything.

Please don't post unsubstantive comments here, and certainly not nationalistic flamebait. We don't need yet another nationalistic flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm not sure that's fair. To me GP comes over as jingoistic nationalism, but it also seems to have a substantive basis - the idea that foreign nations should be ejected at all levels from a governments internal systems?

I'd really like to ask "should other nations eject all USA companies products from their governmental systems too?" (because I'm really curious how an apparent ultra-nationalist sees that?), but you've decided we can't explore that avenue.

Sure, if things get perjorative cut it off, but conversations here tend to have a higher standard of discourse and excluding anything that might get touchy , IMO, unnecessarily limits the topics we can [usefully!] address here.

We can't learn to understand one another if we're afraid to enter discourse on the tricky topics. Yes, there are other places, but this is special here somehow; I think we, HN, as a community can explore these ideas intelligently and maturely with perhaps a slightly lighter tiller.

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