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Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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Some questions if there are outdoor hackers around: What are some laptops that work well with Linux and have max screen brightness suitable for outdoor use? A web site comparison said one Dell XPS 15 model[1] could do 626 nits - what kind of outdoor conditions would this be suitable for? It seems advertising displays advertise an order of magnitude more nits[2] so I assume the laptops would at best be suitable for ov…

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Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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This might be fun for a while, but in the long term you're asking for an increased skin cancer risk. Sorry to be a downer.

Unless you quantify this further, it doesn't mean a it's a net negative for wellbeing, longevity or anything. By getting out of bed you're at increased risk of falling down, etc.

Wellbeing is one thing (I know I would enjoy this a lot more than an office) but long term UV exposure is not forgiving for longevity. I could find sources, but it’s not my area; my partner is a dermatologist and I take her advice on this. It’s worth wearing sunscreen every day (even in the winter), though I believe you have to be careful about choosing products in some places like the US, where sunscreens can be zinc-based.

It’s basically something easy you can do in your morning routine every day that will lower your risk of developing skin cancer and some other problems.

Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

#13
i use:

- wrist band to hold a smartphone; - use VNC client on it to connect to rpi4 in a running vest; - twiddler keyboard and joystick paired to rpi as input device.

This hybrid approach with smartphone as a display works better for me than head-mounted display.

Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you quantify this further, it doesn't mean a it's a net negative for wellbeing, longevity or anything. By getting out of bed you're at increased risk of falling down, etc.

Wellbeing is one thing (I know I would enjoy this a lot more than an office) but long term UV exposure is not forgiving for longevity. I could find sources, but it’s not my area; my partner is a dermatologist and I take her advice on this. It’s worth wearing sunscreen every day (even in the winter), though I believe you have to be careful about choosing products in some places like the US, where sunscreens can be zin…

For what it’s worth it also depends on the skin color of the person involved. If you’re on the more brownish side of things (like my mother and brother are) then you will not be as affected as the people who are more light-skinned (like the guy from the submitted post). There’s also the fact that our grandparents managed just fine to work all day long in broad sunlight without developing skin diseases, but it’s also true that they would almost never wear short-sleeved stuff and they would always keep their head covered under intense sunlight. Nowadays it’s almost a matter of pride among some people (think Nordic or British tourists) to show off how red-skinned they have become after just a couple of days spent in Greece or Southern Spain, it’s nuts.

Later edit: I’m talking about something like this [1], you can see how no person in that photo wears anything short-sleeved and you can also see that almost everyone has their head covered, with the exception of those two guys who probably took their hats off in order to enjoy the tzuica or palinka.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harvest_time_in_Romania...

Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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I moved my desk outside in the last couple of years when the British weather obliged. A few notes:

- temperature. if the temperature is right for you, chances are that it's a bit too warm for your electronics. Chips get hotter, which can result in all sorts of problems (particularly with big screens and graphics-intensive apps, but modern storage as well is often at risk by poor cooling).

- cables. Even if you are in a mostly-covered space, chances are that your cables would get wet when raining, so you are constantly taking them in and out of the house every day.

- insects. Yes yes, nature is good and we need bees and everything, but... they are really distracting.

- environmental noise. Compared to a home office, even a quiet residential street can sound like hell on earth when you are trying to concentrate.

So uhm, yeah, fun for a couple of days, but not long-term.

Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

#18
post #3

I used an identical zero gravity chair and a lap keyboard. After about 8 months, I developed serious issues with my wrists (pain all the time) I went back to a traditional setup with an ergonomic split keyboard so my wrists were completely straight, and my wrists only slowly recovered. I'm now on 6 months of not using a computer at all and finally feeling close to 100% My advice is leave ergonomics up to people who k…

I wonder how much of the wrist pain has to do with diet and exercise. In my teens and early twenties I had chronic wrist pain. Now in my mid twenties I've been doing weight training that includes wrist/grip strength exercises (wrist curls, dead hangs, plate pinches) and making sure I get enough protein. The wrist pain is gone and hasn't come back for years.

The reason I'm mentioning protein is that apparently joints are the first place the body looks when we don't get enough protein. I didn't really watch what I ate when I was younger and realize now that I definitely wasn't eating enough protein.

I'm not advocating for some extreme weight training regimen, but maybe it's worth seeing a physical therapist and telling them about the wrist problems you were having and asking them for exercises to help strengthen your wrists.

Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wellbeing is one thing (I know I would enjoy this a lot more than an office) but long term UV exposure is not forgiving for longevity. I could find sources, but it’s not my area; my partner is a dermatologist and I take her advice on this. It’s worth wearing sunscreen every day (even in the winter), though I believe you have to be careful about choosing products in some places like the US, where sunscreens can be zin…

For what it’s worth it also depends on the skin color of the person involved. If you’re on the more brownish side of things (like my mother and brother are) then you will not be as affected as the people who are more light-skinned (like the guy from the submitted post). There’s also the fact that our grandparents managed just fine to work all day long in broad sunlight without developing skin diseases, but it’s also…

I think it depends on tropical location more than anything else. The sun is much more potent. My grandfather in northern Australia had many cancers removed from his face, ears, neck, shoulders, arms and legs. Today skin cancer occurs in roughly 2 out of 3 people in Australia.

Re: Outdoor Computing with a Deck Desk

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post #15

I moved my desk outside in the last couple of years when the British weather obliged. A few notes: - temperature. if the temperature is right for you, chances are that it's a bit too warm for your electronics. Chips get hotter, which can result in all sorts of problems (particularly with big screens and graphics-intensive apps, but modern storage as well is often at risk by poor cooling). - cables. Even if you are in…

> temperature. if the temperature is right for you, chances are that it's a bit too warm for your electronics. Chips get hotter, which can result in all sorts of problems (particularly with big screens and graphics-intensive apps, but modern storage as well is often at risk by poor cooling).

This is a very AC-centric mindset. I make it a game to hold off on the AC in the summer. I have experienced graphics card overheating, but only when gaming.

A sun reflector, an extra 120mm fan, and maybe a better case should combat any temperature differences.

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