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‘Spiderman’ Hacker Daniel Kaye Took Down Liberia’s Internet

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>I'd like to introduce the term "neo-colonialism" to the discussion. I am curious if you are aware of the context of colonialism with respect to Liberia. Oddly, many aren't aware, but Liberia was founded as a colony by the American Colonization Society in an attempt to return freed slaves back to Africa. Although the number of US slaves that colonized Liberia was pretty limited in number (and a minority compared to t…

I am. As another user mentioned, Liberia was essentially colonized by a Western power. It's a shocking example of the virulence of the culture of exploitation that pervaded the Americas at the time.

>It's a shocking example of the virulence of the culture of exploitation that pervaded the Americas at the time.

Well I think there were both good and bad intentions.

For example, you have Lincoln who of course most would consider an advocate of the abolition of the practice of slavery in the US. And Lincoln supported the American Colonization Society initially, even into the War, but eventually changed his position after speaking with African-American soldiers in his Army (imagine that a politician changing their position on a matter without being ridiculed as a flip-flopper).

On its face without knowing more I think one might think establishing a colony in Africa for freed slaves may have been a noble cause, like Lincoln did at one time, and its not like there weren't a few thousand who took the offer.

Now in practice of course the Whites from the American Colonization Society were the rulers and then the power shifted to the freed US slaves, but of course to the local population they weren't fans of their colonizers white or black.

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>An Israeli/American-owned telecommunications company tries to oust the dominant Liberian-owned company in Liberia, using unsavory tactics meant to shame and humiliate the latter and its users, eventually hoping to sell out to a French telecommunications giant. Oh, and then they just straight-up hack/DDOS them. I'd like to introduce the term "neo-colonialism" to the discussion.

Can I have the phrase "missing the forest through the trees"?

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Those of you who worked at Facebook/Google, wouldn't he make more money by simply being L5-L8 at one of those firms?

I always think about this too (with people that decide to resort to this sort of activity..and any criminal activity in general). The difference: you have full control over your destiny, power that you don't have to spend a decade earning..you just take it, and you don't have ask for permission. There's also a thrill to it. Something you really don't get from a boring desk job..even for the likes of google and Facebo…

Good point!

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This was a quite interesting and enlightening read! I was in Liberia at the time, from December 2016 through June 2017, doing a project for the Liberia Ministry of Health, and got acquainted with some people working for Cellcom. I also gained a great friend in one member of my team, who later worked briefly for Lonestar and is now employed by Orange. There aren't that many opportunities for a young developer in Liberia outside of NGOs (fickle) and the telecoms. Obviously I forwarded the article to him (coincidentally, Israel is his name).

Liberia's history is quite interesting indeed, and I actually like to compare it with the state of Israel -- both are the result of an unholy alliance of people wanting to help, on the one hand, and get rid of, on the other, another people in "their" land: African descendants in the USA, and Jewish people in Europe.

I went back to live in Liberia for three months earlier this year, to try and trace some ancestors of a family member. Things are dire, indeed, with an economy hit hard by the Ebola crisis, on top of years of military rule, civil war, corruption and abuse.

Apart from being used for resources, mainly by Firestone (now Bridgestone) for rubber, but also iron (Arcelor Mittal) and gold (large parts of which is being smuggled to UAE), it remains a strategic interest for the US (their presence is still huge, with CIA's only listening post in Africa), meanwhile trade is controlled by the Indian and Lebanese communities.

Also of interest is that some Cherokee opted to join the free African Americans, with one ending up a chief of the Vai tribe, and possibly inspiring the Vai script with knowledge of the Cherokee script, recently posted here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21737230

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>An Israeli/American-owned telecommunications company tries to oust the dominant Liberian-owned company in Liberia, using unsavory tactics meant to shame and humiliate the latter and its users, eventually hoping to sell out to a French telecommunications giant. Oh, and then they just straight-up hack/DDOS them. I'd like to introduce the term "neo-colonialism" to the discussion.

It's a classic hostile takeover. No new terms needed.

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This was a quite interesting and enlightening read! I was in Liberia at the time, from December 2016 through June 2017, doing a project for the Liberia Ministry of Health, and got acquainted with some people working for Cellcom. I also gained a great friend in one member of my team, who later worked briefly for Lonestar and is now employed by Orange. There aren't that many opportunities for a young developer in Liber…

>CIA's only KNOWN listening post in Africa

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Vice documentary on the cannibal warlords of Liberia is quite shocking. The slaves that were expatriated from America to Liberia promptly enslaved the local population with a nearly identical system to the one they had been taught to live under as slaves.

If you are interest in the subject I recommend reading "The Evolution of Deadly Conflict in Liberia: From 'Paternaltarianism' to State Collapse"

Any idea where to get it without paying an arm and a leg? I see it on Amazon for $199 and then for subscription via a few journals from a quick search
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