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Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#71

A FB ToS violation is not a violation of the law. Nothing prevents people from having multiple accounts to shill with. The only thing "wrong" is how much people will trust what they read on the internet from random people they don't know.

What, then, ought people to trust?

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#72
post #13

love how the only facebook comment under the article is a fake "make money from home" bot

It's poetic really. I bet most of us saw that too but because of the all-too-familiar bot text didn't think twice about it. Kind of like banner blindness. It makes me wonder just how much damage these influence campaigns do. For instance, if Russia spent $100k in FB ads to reach ~140 million people[1]( https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/04/18/w... ), how much of that "reach" translates into votes? I…

>I'd like to think people aren't as dumb as people think.

It's not really about people being smart or dumb. There's evidence that marketing and advertisements create sentiment, even if you don't believe in what the ads say. It's just the way our human brains work. And these entities are, if I had to bet, putting a lot of money towards getting people to believe certain things and act in certain ways without them explicitly knowing that they're being influenced.

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump never stopped campaigning as it is. He has been holding rallies this entire time.

Who are those people who go to political rallies? This feels so alien to me. Americans support their politicians like the rest of the world their local club and badge and vice versa.

Having grown up in Germany, the concept is super scary.

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#75
Did anyone stop and consider these aren’t fake people but people who value anonymity?

I have 20 friends who use such tools and tech to hide their identities. Yes they lean right, slightly but they do. They all do this to avoid being found by employers and other. One of my friends is a prominent person in a legal field, another one is a member of a three letter group.

Other than my real name - My Facebook profile has all fake information for public facing as well. It always has - and it always will. Any AI viewing my profile or person viewing my profile has no means of identifying me as a real person unless they coorelate my name elsewhere.

For many of my friends - Their real name is not used.

In an era of fake news and “ZOMG RUSSIA” we’ve become our worst selves and thrown logic out the window instead falling victim to knee jerk reactions.

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#76

Did anyone stop and consider these aren’t fake people but people who value anonymity? I have 20 friends who use such tools and tech to hide their identities. Yes they lean right, slightly but they do. They all do this to avoid being found by employers and other. One of my friends is a prominent person in a legal field, another one is a member of a three letter group. Other than my real name - My Facebook profile has…

Surely that scenario is the exception and not the rule.

But also, if you have the Facebook app on your phone, or associated with your phone number or email, you’re not anonymous. It’s been an issue for sex workers in the past who try to conceal their identity on social media but Facebook still manages to suggest their “Johns” as friends.

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump never stopped campaigning as it is. He has been holding rallies this entire time.

Who are those people who go to political rallies? This feels so alien to me. Americans support their politicians like the rest of the world their local club and badge and vice versa.

I'd say the phenomenon is pretty unique to Trump and Sanders. In Trump's case, his speeches are largely stand-up comedy, and the parts that aren't played for laughs contain the kind of rah-rah patriotism that people come out to see at 4th of July parades and the like.

Most Americans are indifferent or hostile to their representatives, when they even know who they are.

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#78

Did anyone stop and consider these aren’t fake people but people who value anonymity? I have 20 friends who use such tools and tech to hide their identities. Yes they lean right, slightly but they do. They all do this to avoid being found by employers and other. One of my friends is a prominent person in a legal field, another one is a member of a three letter group. Other than my real name - My Facebook profile has…

I've heard that using fake names is also popular with the youth, though I'm not sure if they're doing it on facebook or some other platform.

Re: People Who Do Not Exist Invade Facebook

#80
post #14

I actually just published a guide on how you can help ensure that ("deepfake") tools that you make are less likely to end up misused like this: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614912/ethical-deepfake-t... Curious what folks think. I also just posted it to /newest if you want to respond there.

Here is a summary of potential mitigations for those too busy to click:

# Limiting users or use cases

- User Vetting: Carefully vet those who can use a tool (Example: Synthesia only working with vetted enterprise clients.)

- Usage Constraints: Limit the synthesis possibilities. (Example: Humen is providing only a limited set of movements for generated videos.)

# Discouraging malicious use of flexible and public tools

- Clear disclosure: Ensuring and requiring that manipulated outputs are clearly labeled (including via metadata).

- Consent protection: Requiring the consent of those being impersonated.

- Detection friendliness: Supporting those working on detection and not seeking to fool detection systems.

- Hidden watermarks: Embedding data through robust watermarks.

- Usage logs: Storing information about usage and media outputs.

- Use restrictions: Enforcing contracts that prohibit forms of violative or malicious use.

Not all apply to every system of course. The article has more detail!

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