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Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

mr_toad wrote: post #36
rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

> a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others Sounds like Usenet in the 90’s. The more things change...

Eternal September? :-/

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by phkahler »

rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

I dont "friend" anyone I dont know IRL and even then I verify that I got the real them via other channels, usually by phone or in person.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by ionforce »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #15
rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Require manual profile validation for new Facebook accounts? Probably would get downvoted if I said SSN + a credit check. Phone number required + needs to be validated + can not be reused + can not be Twilio. Prove your address? Prove your ISP cable bill? I don't know. Everything I guess, people here are going to tell me it's an invasion of privacy and they don't trust Facebook to do it. But they'll let CreditKarma h…

I would love an online forum with aggressive verification. It would really weed out the noise.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #15
rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Require manual profile validation for new Facebook accounts? Probably would get downvoted if I said SSN + a credit check. Phone number required + needs to be validated + can not be reused + can not be Twilio. Prove your address? Prove your ISP cable bill? I don't know. Everything I guess, people here are going to tell me it's an invasion of privacy and they don't trust Facebook to do it. But they'll let CreditKarma h…

By now, people have the gaming of Real Name policies and Verified Accounts down to a science. Indeed it's harder to use false accounts anymore, that much is true.

However, it becomes much easier to Dox people. This allows you to put pressure on work+family+neighbors. Or alternately, if you're one of the more violent groups: you can outright go after your opponents in physical space.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by dv_dt »

gowld wrote: post #29
jacquesm wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the journalists but their bosses that are the problem.

It's not the bosses but their customers that are the problem.

Given the bundled nature of mass news media, it's impossible for customers to send a signal for example that CNN news specifically isn't up to their standard. They can cut the cord on a whole set of products or keep their cable bundle neither of which sends signal to CNN about the quality of their journalism.

More niche publications don't have that problem, but I think a big question is how we systemically increase the quality of mass journalism.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by mtnGoat »

phkahler wrote: post #40
nsomaru wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Journalists are following clicks instead of the other way around

[flagged]

I agree, I will happily pay for news, but most of these "news" outlets are just a bunch of opinions and usually they are all one way or the other depending on the editor.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by eivarv »

avivo wrote: post #39

FYI, I actually just published a guide on how you can help ensure that ("deepfake") tools that you make are less likely to end up misused like this: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614912/ethical-deepfake-t ... (Also at /newest; 3rd page now, and the other submission. Ideally those topics at least would be merged?) Summary of mitigations: # Limiting users or use cases - User Vetting : Carefully vet those who can u…

Good article, but for the sake of argument: Don't you think any technical "solutions" to this issue will also eliminate the possibility to use these tools for ethical goals (let's say the roles were reversed or whatever) – in addition to all the other gray-area, and inevitable arms-race of detection/avoidance?

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by eivarv »

rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

I don't think social media should ever be trusted as a source of news (by itself) – and frankly, I don't know many people who have seen Facebook as such.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by mtnGoat »

Barrin92 wrote: post #24
joeblubaugh wrote: post #3

“Discovers” People have been talking about this group for months and Facebook hemmed and hawed and delayed and delayed

it's actually hard to overstate how significant the effort of the epoch times is. they gathered billions of views on facebook, more than any other news organisation. "In April, at the height of its ad spending, videos from the Epoch Media Group, which includes The Epoch Times and digital video outlet New Tang Dynasty, or NTD, combined for around 3 billion views on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, ranking 11th among all…

but were those views REAL?
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