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Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

One of the scariest quotes for me was Facebook's Little Red Book in 2012 (a book handed out to every employee) that had this quote: > "When everyone has a printing press [i.e., Facebook], the ones with the best ideas are the ones people listen to." In retrospect, it gives a ton of insight into the flawed beliefs within the company. https://twitter.com/nemild/status/1006533287378968576 https://www.businessinsider.com/…

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And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Require manual profile validation for new Facebook accounts? Probably would get downvoted if I said SSN + a credit check. Phone number required + needs to be validated + can not be reused + can not be Twilio. Prove your address? Prove your ISP cable bill? I don't know. Everything I guess, people here are going to tell me it's an invasion of privacy and they don't trust Facebook to do it. But they'll let CreditKarma h…

or simply charge a few bucks for account creation.

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“Discovers” People have been talking about this group for months and Facebook hemmed and hawed and delayed and delayed

it's actually hard to overstate how significant the effort of the epoch times is. they gathered billions of views on facebook, more than any other news organisation.

"In April, at the height of its ad spending, videos from the Epoch Media Group, which includes The Epoch Times and digital video outlet New Tang Dynasty, or NTD, combined for around 3 billion views on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, ranking 11th among all video creators across platforms and outranking every other traditional news publisher, according to data from the social media analytics company Tubular."

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending...

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One of the scariest quotes for me was Facebook's Little Red Book in 2012 (a book handed out to every employee) that had this quote: > "When everyone has a printing press [i.e., Facebook], the ones with the best ideas are the ones people listen to." In retrospect, it gives a ton of insight into the flawed beliefs within the company. https://twitter.com/nemild/status/1006533287378968576 https://www.businessinsider.com/…

I can see this being a naïve but realistic take given what we knew in ~2008. In 2012 it should have been clear that this model could be gamed. And it's on Facebook that their culture wouldn't allow them to see that.

You’re assuming they didn’t see that. Given it’s now nearly 2020 and we’ve had years of reports of election meddling yet Facebook are only calming down on suggestive emoji - stating that they have no interest in policing “free speech” when it comes to political ads - I’m inclined to believe they’re not unaware their network is being games but rather don’t care because it’s still money in their pocket.

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The cynic in me thinks Facebook let this slide to hide the anemic "growth" of their userbase and activity. Bot accounts will still click on ads, like pages, and fake interactions that generate revenue for Facebook.

Aka the usual problem these social media services have; bad behaviour from bots and users likely looks great on the stats spreadsheet, even if it's at the expense of the quality of the site/community.

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Require manual profile validation for new Facebook accounts? Probably would get downvoted if I said SSN + a credit check. Phone number required + needs to be validated + can not be reused + can not be Twilio. Prove your address? Prove your ISP cable bill? I don't know. Everything I guess, people here are going to tell me it's an invasion of privacy and they don't trust Facebook to do it. But they'll let CreditKarma h…

or simply charge a few bucks for account creation.

$4 Payable in Zuckbucks, which can only be bought in $5 packs

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And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Eh, Wikipedia learned to deal with it too (and sockpuppets and meatpuppets, and more).

I'm sure Facebook can work it out too. Though they have some very game-able elements.

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In part, imho, the distrust comes from the the standards of the highest tiers of professional journalists being on a low right now too.

It's not the journalists but their bosses that are the problem.

It's not the bosses but their customers that are the problem.

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And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Require manual profile validation for new Facebook accounts? Probably would get downvoted if I said SSN + a credit check. Phone number required + needs to be validated + can not be reused + can not be Twilio. Prove your address? Prove your ISP cable bill? I don't know. Everything I guess, people here are going to tell me it's an invasion of privacy and they don't trust Facebook to do it. But they'll let CreditKarma h…

When it comes to account creation, whatever method you come up with will be solved with hordes of call centre workers in a lesser affluent county.

The only solution is to police the content and that then brings up questions about whether Facebook are an “ISP”, how start ups then follow precedence, etc.

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