Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

cntechpost.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 98 posts

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#11

Post by gman83 »

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #6
bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

This posting's article also had a side bar link to a suggested article on the same news site, CN Tech Post. China is releasing its own OS, too (Unity OS -- UOS): https://cntechpost.com/2019/12/13/china-made-operating-syste...

It's just a rebranded version of Deepin Linux.

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#12

Post by ses1984 »

bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

I thought the sanctions on Huawei were about stopping the penetration of Chinese devices into American networks and businesses for security reasons.

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#13

Post by ForHackernews »

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #6
bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

This posting's article also had a side bar link to a suggested article on the same news site, CN Tech Post. China is releasing its own OS, too (Unity OS -- UOS): https://cntechpost.com/2019/12/13/china-made-operating-syste...

> It has perfect functions, smooth experience and stable quality.

Sounds flawless...

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#14

Post by ChrisSD »

euix wrote: post #5
dr_dshiv wrote: post #3

I use a Huawei - it takes surprisingly great photos and is generally well made. Some annoying software pop-ups, though. I guess the worst part is that I feel the need to loudly state that "I support the actions of the Chinese government" on a regular basis, just to be safe.

Huawei is just like Apple in my mind. An overly expensive premium phone with bells and whistles I don't need. I had a ZTE for many years that is finally bricking. After this I will probably get some $100 phone from one of those millions of unknown Shenzhen OEMs, UMIDIGI or something.

Huawei have long done good phones in the roughly £100 to £200 range. They tend to be arguably the best hardware for their price. But as mentioned, the software isn't perfect so you'll either need to put up with some annoyances or be willing to hack around it.

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#16

Post by sct202 »

ses1984 wrote: post #12
bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

I thought the sanctions on Huawei were about stopping the penetration of Chinese devices into American networks and businesses for security reasons.

The original sanction charge on Huawei was for selling American equipment to Iran, and all the financial transactions related to hiding that. Stealing trade secrets and patent infringement is usually fine and a block on specific products and were tacked on later.

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#17

Post by jdsully »

ses1984 wrote: post #12
bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

I thought the sanctions on Huawei were about stopping the penetration of Chinese devices into American networks and businesses for security reasons.

The official reason is that they exported US tech to Iran. But its pretty obvious the whole thing is political. Even trump contradicted the official reason a day later.

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#18

Post by fredmorcos »

ses1984 wrote: post #12
bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

I thought the sanctions on Huawei were about stopping the penetration of Chinese devices into American networks and businesses for security reasons.

That's what they tell you.

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#19

Post by yorwba »

bhouston wrote: post #2

So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei. That should scare the shit out of the US government. It means that China is much more self-sufficient in technology than they figured. The future of high technology at this time does seem to be in the hands of China with the rest of the world contributing a bit. I suspect OSes and arc…

> So the US sanctions on Huawei, that were intended to be crippling and were fairly abrupt and harsh, had only a minor effect on Huawei.

Of course they had only a minor effect, since they were always postponed to some future date. [1] The sanctions weren't intended to be crippling and harsh, but to threaten becoming crippling and harsh unless China makes certain concessions. So long as the concessions remain on the table, the sanctions remain off the table.

[1] Currently February 16, 2020 apparently: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/us-government-postpo...

Re: Huawei expected to surpass Apple to become world’s No 2 phone maker

#20

Post by davidy123 »

adriantam wrote: post #15

Lego is the world's No 1 wheel maker. Michelin is far behind Lego in counts. But when you need a wheel for your car, you look for Michelin. Same here. Huawei phone and Apple phone are for different market. You shouldn't compare like that.

That's a very clever but insulting comparison. iPhone and Android (and etc) are both clearly smartphones with the same general features. I have to use an iPhone for work. I try to get the most out of it, but am constantly surprised how primitive and clunky it is compared to the Android experience.
Post reply on HN