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Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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If Apple trusts the security of its own operating system, it should be able to sandbox the apps just like any other app.

While the US doesn’t force companies to install apps, it does force companies to support E911 and the system used for Amber alerts and other mandated alerts.

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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If Apple trusts the security of its own operating system, it should be able to sandbox the apps just like any other app. While the US doesn’t force companies to install apps, it does force companies to support E911 and the system used for Amber alerts and other mandated alerts.

They should not trust their sandboxing, even if it happens to be flawless today that can change at any time.

Their defense in depth strategy involves inspecting apps before they get onto the App Store for completely rational reasons. If they are not allowed to do this then it’s probably in Apples interest to abandon the Russian market.

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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post #3

If Apple trusts the security of its own operating system, it should be able to sandbox the apps just like any other app. While the US doesn’t force companies to install apps, it does force companies to support E911 and the system used for Amber alerts and other mandated alerts.

They should not trust their sandboxing, even if it happens to be flawless today that can change at any time. Their defense in depth strategy involves inspecting apps before they get onto the App Store for completely rational reasons. If they are not allowed to do this then it’s probably in Apples interest to abandon the Russian market.

If that’s the case and the apps are allowed on the App Store, they still have the same issue.

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should not trust their sandboxing, even if it happens to be flawless today that can change at any time. Their defense in depth strategy involves inspecting apps before they get onto the App Store for completely rational reasons. If they are not allowed to do this then it’s probably in Apples interest to abandon the Russian market.

If that’s the case and the apps are allowed on the App Store, they still have the same issue.

Forcing the apps to go through their approval process likely discourages some malicious behavior. Even if Apple approves an app they can still yank it at any time should the discover an issue. Require Apple to include apps and anything goes.

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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Does anyone know how much Russian iPhone says are worth to Apple?

Also interesting to know would be much the iPhone platform is worth to Russian app developers if they can no longer buy Apple hardware to test/develop against?

If both of these figures are small then it could well in Apple's interests to just abandon sales in Russia.

Since, from the article, this proposed law would only cover sale of new devices those really motivated would still be able to buy abroad.

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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If Apple trusts the security of its own operating system, it should be able to sandbox the apps just like any other app. While the US doesn’t force companies to install apps, it does force companies to support E911 and the system used for Amber alerts and other mandated alerts.

Depends if the law says "Apple must install what we provide, so long as it complies with their policies and is in their judgement secure" or if it merely says "Apple must install what we provide"

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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>Local digital-rights activists like Artem Kozlyuk are worried, saying that these apps could “secretly collect information: location, tools and services being used and so on”.

Technically impossible.

>The apps can be deleted, but only if users know to do that

Like any other app.

>and there are suspicions that they might leave behind backdoors into users’ phones after they are gone.

Technically impossible.

I can't read the rest of the article. What are the apps about?

Re: Russia presses Apple to install Kremlin-approved apps

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If Apple trusts the security of its own operating system, it should be able to sandbox the apps just like any other app. While the US doesn’t force companies to install apps, it does force companies to support E911 and the system used for Amber alerts and other mandated alerts.

Why do you trust the security of US emergency alerts? We know about security flaws in SMS, MMS and iMessage. I’m guessing not as many people outside the government know about the flaws in emergency alerts, but in this case I’d be most worried about them.
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