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Re: This Page is Designed to Last

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This is why I've been saving PDFs/HTMLs or even just taking screenshots of webpages I find especially meaningful or important to me... Archiving things as files this way can get kind of tedious and definitely feels primitive at times (we made the LHC but I'm here not expecting the same pages of cool interviews, designs, etc. to be up next month), but what can you do? But it's nice to know you're not alone in wanting…

Same here. The new iOS full-page capture + iCloud files works great for this.

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

#32

HTML is worth minifying just to get rid of comments. I don't want my "TODO(mullens): " comments to be visible to end users if possible. And gzip doesn't get rid of comments at all.

I enjoy seeing authentic HTML comments. Sometimes they can provide invaluable context to the page.

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There's no reason why a web browser bookmark action doesn't automatically create a WARC (web archive) format. Heck, with the cost of storage so low, recording every webpage you ever visit in searchable format is also very realistic. Imagine having the last 30 years of web browsing history saved on your local machine. This would especially be useful when in research mode and deep diving a topic. [1] https://github.com…

In practice how is this different from MHTML? I think most browsers have built-in support for MHTML so it should be possible to build that part easily.

According to the MHTML entry on Wikipedia, Chrome requires an extension, Firefox doesn't support it, and only Internet Explorer supports MHTML.

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

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> Well, people may prefer to link to them since they have a promise of working in the future.

In a world where 95% of the google search results for are forum threads, with everyone 'answering' the question by saying 'just google it, dumbass'[1], I don't think people - as in - the common homo sapiens - cares about the longevity of the content they link to as much as the author thinks.

Quality of the content (Does it have the information you want) is king. Longevity is a 'future me' problem, and 'future me' is incredibly shortsighted.

[1] Thanks, guys, how did you think I found this forum thread?

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

#35

This is why I've been saving PDFs/HTMLs or even just taking screenshots of webpages I find especially meaningful or important to me... Archiving things as files this way can get kind of tedious and definitely feels primitive at times (we made the LHC but I'm here not expecting the same pages of cool interviews, designs, etc. to be up next month), but what can you do? But it's nice to know you're not alone in wanting…

Same here. The new iOS full-page capture + iCloud files works great for this.

"Printing" the page might be higher-fidelity in the amount of information it contains.

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

#36
For this exact reason I've been pushing to use static HTML on my personal blogs and I spend a lot of time optimizing images for both retina and 1x resolutions. Basic HTML & CSS are good now, and there is no reason fairly basic content can't be stored as static pages.

You can convert PHP or other dynamic pages to static fairly easily, it takes about half a day of scripting and a little time with configuring your web server. The pages load quicker and the load on your server is lower.

I've long considered the idea of a permanent hosting solution, where people pay to get their content up and I guarantee it's longevity, but the business model on that is tough.

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

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Ugh. I thought blockchain hype was dead by now. Additionally, no it's not. If zero nodes rehost and serve the content, it's not available.

A key-value store has nothing to do with blockchain.

FileCoin is a blockchain and is the incentivization layer on top of IPFS that allows users to rent hard drive space. It is intrinsically connected with IPFS.

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

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post #10

There's no reason why a web browser bookmark action doesn't automatically create a WARC (web archive) format. Heck, with the cost of storage so low, recording every webpage you ever visit in searchable format is also very realistic. Imagine having the last 30 years of web browsing history saved on your local machine. This would especially be useful when in research mode and deep diving a topic. [1] https://github.com…

In practice how is this different from MHTML? I think most browsers have built-in support for MHTML so it should be possible to build that part easily.

The state of mhtml support is fairly pathetic at the moment. Firefox broke mhtml compatibility with the quantum overhaul. Chrome's mht support had been a hit and miss over the years, sometimes removing the GUI option entirely and requiring one to manually launch the browser with a special tag to enable it. The only browser with a history of consistent mhtml support happens to be....Internet Explorer, followed by a bunch of even more obscure vendors that nobody really uses.

I am currently dealing with the problem of parsing large mht files (several megabytes and up). A regular web browser would hang and crash upon opening these files and most ready made tools I could find struggle with the number of embedded images. It's very much a neglected format with very little support in 2019.

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

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post #33
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In practice how is this different from MHTML? I think most browsers have built-in support for MHTML so it should be possible to build that part easily.

According to the MHTML entry on Wikipedia, Chrome requires an extension, Firefox doesn't support it, and only Internet Explorer supports MHTML.

I mean, it's not any worse than WARC support…

Re: This Page is Designed to Last

#40

HTML is worth minifying just to get rid of comments. I don't want my "TODO(mullens): " comments to be visible to end users if possible. And gzip doesn't get rid of comments at all.

I enjoy seeing authentic HTML comments. Sometimes they can provide invaluable context to the page.

I agree. I can understand not wanting it in a business context, but on personal sites or open projects it’s interesting.
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