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Microsoft’s Ready to Contribute to OpenJDK

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Re: Microsoft’s Ready to Contribute to OpenJDK

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Post by phillipcarter »

abledon wrote: post #3

Hypothetical Question: Is it at all possible to eventually merge Java and C# back into a single language? Say in 2030 ?

Not without an enormous amount of breaking changes. The severity of them would be so high that no C# or Java programmer could ever convert their existing code.

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Post by efdee »

m4r35n357 wrote: post #6
abledon wrote: post #3

Hypothetical Question: Is it at all possible to eventually merge Java and C# back into a single language? Say in 2030 ?

What would be the point? C# has been well and truly tied to the Visual Studio / MSSQL / Resharper stack.

Of course you can use other IDEs (VS Code, Rider, Monodevelop) and databases (Postgres, Sqlite, Mysql, Oracle).

And plenty of people don't use R# either, but I prefer to do so.

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Post by bhauer »

stuff4ben wrote: post #9

I like the direction the "new" Microsoft is going! Hopefully they'll behave themselves this time (re: Visual J++, etc)

J++ might get a bad rap in hindsight, but back in the day, it was amazing. The editor was liquid smooth, performance wise, and the compiler was at least a dozen times faster than the JDK Java compiler. It was like the Jikes compiler before Jikes.

I recall using Visual J++ and its compiler to do "pure Java" development back then and it was a delight. I only moved to Eclipse later because Eclipse had a deeper understanding of the Java language and was able to do fancy things like traverse a call stack from static code analysis. Eclipse was considerably slower in UI and responsiveness, especially on hardware of the time, but that utility made up for it.

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Post by paggle »

polskibus wrote: post #14

Please MS, increase development resources behind net and c# instead. It will benefit Java more than direct Java development - competition will give Java more motivation to grow.

Microsoft doesn’t have to pull resources from anything to put them on Java. It’s like if Jeff Bezos is buying a car and you say “please spend the money on a boat instead”

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Post by bhauer »

polskibus wrote: post #14

Please MS, increase development resources behind net and c# instead. It will benefit Java more than direct Java development - competition will give Java more motivation to grow.

You say that as if they are somehow being sparing in their support of C# and .NET, which is clearly not true. What specifically do you see as lacking on that front?

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Post by Analemma_ »

shortlived wrote: post #15

>> As many of you may know, Microsoft and its subsidiaries are heavily dependent on Java in many aspects, and also offers Java runtimes in its Microsoft Azure cloud to its customers. Anyone know details on how MS uses Java outside of hosted runtimes?

I'm mystified as well. I worked at Microsoft for seven years and never once heard any mention of Java. Maybe it's in the acquisitions? (GitHub, LinkedIn, etc.)
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