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The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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Twitter thread from Snowden: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1207624251953549312

> The government may steal a dollar, but it cannot erase the idea that earned it. I wrote this book, Permanent Record, for you, and I hope the government's ruthless desperation to prevent its publication only inspires you read it—and then gift it to another.

> The court's ruling is a hack intended to circumvent First Amendment limits on what the gov't can censor. They can't (yet) ban the book, so they ban profit to try and prevent such books from being written in the first place.

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So read it and send Ed a dollar (or Bitcoin equiv.)

I think it's illegal to send him any money due to him being an enemy of the state.

The mere fact that you can't say for sure his exact status should raise a giant red flag about the state of our republic.

He is certainly targeted and watched. If you send him money, you will likely be watched more carefully as well. Buying his book is a symbol of defiance more than anything else.

That said, Snowden is not covered by official sanctions and does not even come up on Dow Jones as PEP or person of interest.

source:

sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov

dowjones.com

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

did he? I noticed he wrote: The government may steal a dollar, but it cannot erase the idea that earned it. I wrote this book, Permanent Record, for you, and I hope the government's ruthless desperation to prevent its publication only inspires you read it—and then gift it to another. -- https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1207624251953549312

Does it say somewhere in the article that the government is attempt to prevent its publication? Sounds like they're just stripping his profits.

When one cannot prevent the publication, one can prevent any reward that the author might get from it. It's not a far stretch to consider this to be aimed (at least partially) at discouraging such publications.

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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The logical next-step is to ensure this book is stocked in every public library in America.

If the US Government intends to capture the profits from this book, then there is ample incentive to purchase copies for public consumption as it is now effectively purchased at-cost.

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's illegal to send him any money due to him being an enemy of the state.

The mere fact that you can't say for sure his exact status should raise a giant red flag about the state of our republic. He is certainly targeted and watched. If you send him money, you will likely be watched more carefully as well. Buying his book is a symbol of defiance more than anything else. That said, Snowden is not covered by official sanctions and does not even come up on Dow Jones as PEP or person of intere…

wouldn't it be normal for indictments to be under seal? I agree with all your points though.

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

#17
It would be cool to see this go second hand by a fan. A fan that could buy up all the copies at a bulk rate (say $2 for 1M copies) Then re-sell those at the original price. Since it's now a used book, that fan could donate the profit to the original author, whoever that is.

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

#18
It would be great if there was world peace, happy families and spouses that stayed together forever, and no foreigners targeting your country.

People often forget that foreign governments are targeting USA and US persons abroad. There isn't another move left but to have surveillance tools and ingest a lot of data. If the advantage is lost, it will be someone else having it.

This also extends to military things. It'd be nice if we all cooperated as countries and built a space elevator. But that's a child's fantasy, in the end there's a power dilemma.

The thing with surveillance / war industry / etc. is there isn't a better alternative. It's not about being bullheaded and mean - it's about the very real threat of losing dominance and having foreign powers boss you around. This has happened to many countries throughout the history of civilization.

Instead of complaining about surveillance in intelligence, which likely doesn't relate to you, why not complain about "normal" civil liberties in a criminal law context - for instance, stricter rules around stored data. Other things include better social benefits, affordable housing, better representation as consumer (e.g. right to repair)?

I bet security will mean a lot more when the system being protected helps the common person more. :)

Re: The Feds Get Permission to Seize Edward Snowden's Book Profits

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To be fair, Snowden was given access to a lot of stuff because he promised not to reveal them outside of the chain of command. He did, and claimed that the chain was broken and the people needed to know. Fine. The government didn't even try to ban the the book (it would have been impossible anyway.)

But, why should he profit ??

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