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Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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I live in Northern India which has heavy air pollution. I recently bought an air purifier. Just the difference in the quality of sleep is amazing. And it is not a placebo effect. The filters are already visibly grimy. The PM 2.5 consistently now is around mid 20s down from around 180-190. I would recommend it to all in North India who can afford it, esp households with small children.

> And it is not a placebo effect.

How do you know?

Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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Not sure how to reconcile this with the fact that suicide rates in rural areas of the US far exceed suicide rates in urban areas. Do the availability of guns in rural areas really offset this effect that much?

There are multiple factors that lead to suicide. This study shows air pollution is one, but there are others that lead to an elevated suicide rate in rural areas of the US.

Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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post #8

I live in Northern India which has heavy air pollution. I recently bought an air purifier. Just the difference in the quality of sleep is amazing. And it is not a placebo effect. The filters are already visibly grimy. The PM 2.5 consistently now is around mid 20s down from around 180-190. I would recommend it to all in North India who can afford it, esp households with small children.

> And it is not a placebo effect. How do you know?

You do not deserve the downvotes. Just because the purifier takes particulates out of the air doesn’t mean the effects on humans isn’t placebo

Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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post #8

I live in Northern India which has heavy air pollution. I recently bought an air purifier. Just the difference in the quality of sleep is amazing. And it is not a placebo effect. The filters are already visibly grimy. The PM 2.5 consistently now is around mid 20s down from around 180-190. I would recommend it to all in North India who can afford it, esp households with small children.

> And it is not a placebo effect. How do you know?

please read the very next sentence. peace.

Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

#16

Not sure how to reconcile this with the fact that suicide rates in rural areas of the US far exceed suicide rates in urban areas. Do the availability of guns in rural areas really offset this effect that much?

In NYC the overall pm 2.5 is really low, usually in the teens, so unless you live under a highway with your windows open its likely too little to affect suicide rates. There are probably other air pollutants in NYC but that could be true of rural areas working in agriculture/heavy industry as well. I imagine many US big cities follow this pattern except for a few unlucky places.

Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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This article is a dumpster fire, read to actual journal article - DOI: 10.1289/EHP4595

"DISCUSSION: Our findings support the hypothesis of an association between long-term PM2:5 exposure and depression, as well as supporting hypotheses of possible associations between long-term PM2:5 exposure and anxiety and between short-term PM10 exposure and suicide. The limited literature and methodological challenges in this field, including heterogeneous outcome definitions, exposure assessment, and residual confounding, suggest further high-quality studies are warranted to investigate potentially causal associations between air pollution and poor mental health."

Don't really get the point, not really sure the journal is P hacking with PM10 being suicide and PM2.5 being depression but PM2.5/10 gives you cancer's which is depressing, why wouldn't you clean your air?

Re: Depression and suicide linked to air pollution in new global study

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And it is not a placebo effect. How do you know?

please read the very next sentence. peace.

Right right, but if you look at https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/i-had-toxins-sucked-out-... you can see that things do change in colour sometimes and it may have nothing to do with the outcome.
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