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Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disputed but https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10535620

Haha here is the link to the original email thread with pg asking me to do this: https://www.prettyfwd.com/t/a_SBCPYeTLGxeP37RRTpmw/ The last time this came up I couldn't share the email thread because PrettyFWD didn't yet exist.

Ah cool, a little piece of history. I stand corrected.

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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Fake the supply side (aka content) as much as you can if you are trying to reach the existing community as your seed, if possible make sure people are noticing said content (via social/seo). Or simply reach out to said group or person to get a network started. Make sure engagement is kept high and differentiated as people change so being constant is not always the best scenario.

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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I helped building producthunt.com and overclockers.at (and other less successful ones) Here a few learnings: 1. the community already exists, you just create a communication platform for it 2. make it clear what the community is about [positioning/marketing] 3. make sure the communication/content is interesting [quality] 4. make sure there is enough engagement [perceived critical mass] (encourage people to post, post…

Agree on all of these points. One thing is you need to preserve the engagement. If you are the founder of the community platform make sure you keep content being contributed and be personally accessible.

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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Suggested readings:

"The Culting of Brands" - https://www.amazon.com/Culting-Brands-Turn-Customers-Believe...

Blueprint for Revolution (as mentioned in Adam Grant's Originals) - https://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Revolution-Nonviolent-Techn...

Tribes by Seth Godin -https://www.amazon.com/Tribes-We-Need-You-Lead/dp/1491514736

The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements - https://www.amazon.com/True-Believer-Thoughts-Nature-Movemen...

I've read the first three. The fourth is on my short list. The common theme? Start in a tight niche and establish a core of "fanatics". With a niche and a core your odds of traction and sustainability drop off.

If it helps, use any major religion as a reference point. That is, Christianity wasn't always the dominate (?) force it is today. But it started very small and tight.

A community isn't much different. Perhaps less extreme (?), but the same basic elements remain.

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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1. Seed with high quality community members. Initially this might just be a small circle of friends or emigres from another online community. 2. Be really hands on with identifying, engaging with, and empowering the best community members. Typically, this would mean giving them some sort of moderation powers and/or giving them access to some sort of "backchannel" (ie, a mods-only chat or forum) in which they can be a…

> Your community cannot represent a Stack Overflow-sized massive knowledge base. Worth noting I think that Stack Overflow started (relatively) small itself, and that it followed your two points. The membership "seeding" was the readers of Jeff and Joel's blogs. Both of them, Jeff and Joel, were very visible and active at least in the meta aspects of the site. Jeff in particular was happy to discuss how the site worke…

Joel also had a community going already with the "business of software" forum (imo the spiritual predecessor of HN, patio11 was very well know there) and the comments sections of Jeff's blog was a great place for discussion too.

They also had a really good podcast going as they were developing it.

And a good 'bad guy' too, the site with a dash (experts-exchange).

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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You need to be active with your site, so many people think they can throw up a website/app and the community will run itself, it really doesn't.

You've gotta be hands-on and engage with all the members, listen to them, especially over small things (what's nothing to you is a potential deal breaker for them) You gotta post, keep the discussion going, start the discussion etc.

Reasons I've seen communities die 1, incompetent/not bothered admins and 2, micro management. So many admins become mini-Hitlers when they have a little bit of 'power'.

Most importantly though is community, your users will stick with you through the worst buggy code so long as you show that you care about them.

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

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I've launched and grown/run a few forums over the years and the key for me was to always seed it with as much quality content as possible. Fake it until you make it. I believe reddit did the same.

If I recall correctly, Reddit benefited significantly from some minor mishap that caused people to leave Slashdot back in 2006. I recall checking out Digg and Reddit and deciding that Reddit was superior.

Welcoming new members from other sites is always a good move.

Re: Ask HN: How do you create a successful community from zero?

#70
Okay, as someone who's run quite a few forums in the past and has written more than a few articles about community management, my experience here is that successful forums tend to have a few things in common:

1. A topic that hasn't been tapped into that much, but which has an existing audience just waiting to get involved. This was the case with Wario Forums, which had no competition whatsoever when it launched, and was started pretty much because myself and a few others in the fandom wanted a forum about the series and were willing to help get one off the ground.

2. An awful lot of dedication to the field from its founder. It's a cliche now, but forums and communities in general are usually not built in a day/week/month. So the founder needs to be super dedicated to the subject area, and willing to put in potentially weeks of unpaid work getting the site off the ground.

3. Unique and interesting content about the topic. Again, this was pretty easy for me on Wario Forums, the people I invited had experience translating games from Japanese, creating remixes of the music, making mods and level editors, etc, and I had a lot of knowledge of the series and what kinds of discussions would be interesting to a fan.

But yeah, this is where the whole 'passion' aspect comes in again. If you're not absolutely fanatical about the subject and don't possess a lot of knowledge about it, you'll struggle to create anything interesting enough to get people to join/take notice.

Seriously though, I'd recommend you check out some of the articles about this topic on sites like The Admin Zone, Feverbee and Managing Communities if you need some more in depth advice on the subject:

https://theadminzone.com/ams/

https://www.feverbee.com/richs-blog/

http://www.managingcommunities.com/

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