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Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Yes, the United States has a problem and it is well documented. But that does not at all begin to tell the whole story about why people are locked up. In the United States it is large numbers of people that got caught up in the so-called war-on-drugs, in Turkey it is because Erdogan has used the failed coup (if there even was one) as a pretext to lock up just about everybody who he felt might be a threat to his regim…

It seems Nixon's and Erdogan's motivations were similar. The war on drugs was created by the Nixon regime as a way to neutralize threatening political movements like Black Power and the Hippie Peace movement.

> The war on drugs was created by the Nixon regime as a way to neutralize threatening political movements like Black Power and the Hippie Peace movement.

This seems like one of those Illuminati/Knights Templar conspiracy theories. I don't buy it. I'm imagining Nixon's cabinet in a super secret meeting:

Nixon: "Those hippies and negroes. They are growing too powerful. Soon, democrats will dominate every level of government"

Secretary of State: "But what can we do?"

Nixon: smirks and peers over reading glasses directly at the camera

Nixon: "We hit them where it hurts. Tell me, what does the hippy and the negro have in common?"

Secretary of Agriculture: "High rates of homelessness?"

Nixon: "No, the Reefer. We can't outright declare war on US citizens. But we can attack the thing they hold most dear and get the religious right to love us for it."

Secretary of Defense: "Mother of God... a war... on drugs"

Nixon: "Precisely. The hippy and negro cannot resist the draw of the Reefer. Thus, we simply declare war on the Reefer. We can lock them up in prisons where they will harmlessly live out their days, unable to empower the democratic party."

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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OTOH: forcing every country in the world to obey google is no better.

Google doesn't have armies and police forces. It can't "force" anyone to do anything, unlike governments. Deciding not to provide its services is not a use of force from google.

Many believe internet access is a basic human right. [1]

Thus, many believe that pulling out of a country where your device is one of the sole affordable ways of reaching the internet is tantamount to a human rights violation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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It seems Nixon's and Erdogan's motivations were similar. The war on drugs was created by the Nixon regime as a way to neutralize threatening political movements like Black Power and the Hippie Peace movement.

> The war on drugs was created by the Nixon regime as a way to neutralize threatening political movements like Black Power and the Hippie Peace movement. This seems like one of those Illuminati/Knights Templar conspiracy theories. I don't buy it. I'm imagining Nixon's cabinet in a super secret meeting: Nixon: "Those hippies and negroes. They are growing too powerful. Soon, democrats will dominate every level of gover…

Lordy, I hope there are tapes. To quote a particular Individual(-1). But there is more than a grain of truth to this.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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What investment? Google already develops Android, they already developed the “untying” feature for Russia. What’s left? Turkish Localization? I find it hard to believe that even a 50% mobile search share in Turkey won’t pay those incremental costs. I find it much more believable that this is a simple pressure play.

Ongoing support for the Turkish market. Technical support staff who can speak Turkish, documentation in the Turkish language, and a team of developers to handle Turkish-specific i18n bugs. None of these are 'incremental' costs.

My thinking is that if this argument is true, Google should be the one making it. They don’t need HN to “reverse engineer” a defense for them, particularly one that may not be factually correct.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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It seems Nixon's and Erdogan's motivations were similar. The war on drugs was created by the Nixon regime as a way to neutralize threatening political movements like Black Power and the Hippie Peace movement.

> The war on drugs was created by the Nixon regime as a way to neutralize threatening political movements like Black Power and the Hippie Peace movement. This seems like one of those Illuminati/Knights Templar conspiracy theories. I don't buy it. I'm imagining Nixon's cabinet in a super secret meeting: Nixon: "Those hippies and negroes. They are growing too powerful. Soon, democrats will dominate every level of gover…

Ummm... doesn't everyone know about Ehrlichman's comments by now? You might need some remedial reading:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nixon-aide-war-dru...

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Your premise of democracy is wrong. Turkey is an authoritarian dictatorship at this point.

...and the US is shockingly close to being one.

How? Genuine question. Is it because Trump? Because while Trump and many of his supporters may be authoritarian, he was still duly elected, and if he had lost, Hillary would be President. In a dictatorship, Obama would have chosen his successor (generally).

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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> Nobody can tell a company who they HAVE to sell their product to.. Of course the state can do that.

Turkey can if Google wants to do business in Turkey- if it isn't a legal business entity in Turkey, then no, not really.

Google has a legal business entity in Turkey.

Re: Google's Monopoly-Based Foreign Policy

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Or perhaps the Russian market was large enough that the return on continued investment in it despite the required changes justified remaining in it and the Turkish market isn't large enough to justify continuing to invest in it.

Turkey is more than half as large as Russia in population and GDP. It‘s not exactly a small market.

Household income per capita in Turkey is less than 1/2 of that in Russia.
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