Have they considered making their pricing easier to understand, or did they collectively decide that the AWS model of "Good luck understanding your bill!" is a good one?
Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
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This is certainly not as true with Microsoft or AWS. You remember the old saying that “no one ever got fired for buying IBM”? If someone bet the farm on IBM in the 70s, they could still buy compatible systems. Do you think you are at more risk betting your enterprise on Microsoft or Google?
Even the newest mainframes are still compatible with code and binaries from the 1960s. You might pay out the ass for the privilege, but it's a legitimately impressive technical accomplishment.
heck, even 3xx series systems are still compatible on modern IBM mainframes.
you can say alot about IBM, but excellent compatibility is not one its weaknesses.
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They literally had entire cities cheering for the arrival of their product, and they shuttered it.
At least the people who currently have it, will continue to have it (well, hopefully).
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/7/18215743/google-fiber-leav...
Google Fiber’s attempt to roll out its gigabit internet across the city of Louisville, Kentucky has apparently failed so spectacularly that the company has decided to completely shut down
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#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's profitable why do they care if it passes Amazon or Microsoft?
I'm fairly certain Google Cloud is not profitable. Even if it is profitable, Google will divest from business that don't hit a certain scale (billion $ businesses). Basically their goal is to never have employees staffed on projects which yield a low $ / employee ratio. They will invest for a while, but pull the plug after some arbitrary time if it doesn't hit the scale.
And that's not a bad way to move at least in the short term. The problem is that longterm, people will avoid your products pre-emptively for fear of them being vaporware. Especially with something as serious as cloud implementation in an organization. I would hate to be the guys who now have to rearch all their applications to go from GCP to AWS.
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#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How is Google so clueless to let this leak? If you create a culture of intense internal competition, where identities are tied to subunits ( e.g. a product team) over the company, you incentivise leaks. Google's elitist, "product founder" driven culture, unmonitored by a detached leadership, almost guaranteed this sort of sniping and in-fighting.
Who is the internal competitor to Google Cloud?
In any enterprise competitor doesn't mean a similar product, it means any unit who can get headcount, budget etc. Google said in Q3 that they were spending a ton to grow cloud - which makes all the other kingdom building VPs concerned - they are the competition. Youtube, Gsuite, Ads, whatever else google hasn't abandoned that they charge for.
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#346Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is it ridiculous? The article said GCP would receive reduced invesment if that target isn't met. It's a bit hard to grow without investing, so it smells to me like a precursor to sustained engineering.
> The article said GCP would receive reduced invesment if that target isn't met. And the comments upthread said that GCP would be terminated instantly if that target isn't met. You genuinely don't see the disconnect in that interpretation?
Google has built a strong reputation as a company that shuts down any product or service that isn't #1 in the target market. it is not unreasonable to believe that might extend to their third- or fourth-place GCP product.
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#347I can't imagine a more damaging leak for Google Cloud. A company that's already notorious for abandoning projects now has a public date for when they'll abandon cloud. How could anyone in their right mind start building on GCP? They may as well shut it down today.
Maybe this helps GCP as the leak now makes this reputational for GOOG. They’ll have to keep it running to prevent people leaving because of the leak so they’ll do something drastic like pledge 10 years of support or something.
This is what has always terrified me about GCP. The business mode wasn’t there so I haven’t done anything serious since they killed/overhauled app engine years ago (aws seems to always make stuff better and I think Microsoft has bet the whole company on azure).
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The Stadia pro tier fee is just $9.99/mo. The GPU and CPU you could consume playing a AAA game on that (yes, even on the purported "medium" settings) for just a few hours a day surely far exceeds what it could be sold for wholesale.
They don't have to match what it would be sold for wholesale though, just need to match the marginal cost. A graphics card that can run a AAA game is less than $500, so I don't think they are losing much on $9.99 a month. That's over $100 a year, and if each users plays 3 hours a day you can have 8 users using the same hardware at different times. Now I don't think they are using consumer hardware, and there are othe…
That's assuming people play games in well-defined shifts. I find it more likely to have 8 users play between 8pm and 11pm and zero users for the rest of the day.
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#349Wow, this seriously highlights Google's lack of understanding regarding enterprise customers. Enterprise purchase decisions I've been a part of place stability and the long term partnership way above cutting edge tech or price. It takes about 2 seconds to extrapolate all of the internal investments you'd have to scrap in 4 years if Google decides to defund GCP.
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How is Google so clueless to let this leak? If you create a culture of intense internal competition, where identities are tied to subunits ( e.g. a product team) over the company, you incentivise leaks. Google's elitist, "product founder" driven culture, unmonitored by a detached leadership, almost guaranteed this sort of sniping and in-fighting.
Who is the internal competitor to Google Cloud?
I don’t think Google internally uses GCP. So a direct competitor would be whoever runs the “real” google cloud that all the internal stuff.