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Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Post by davidw »

chrisweekly wrote: post #41
davidw wrote: post #19

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> We don't have a working chat standard, and it shows and we need to fix it. IRC works pretty well. The only thing I sometimes miss is history, but... in some ways that's not a bad thing, and could be added without too much trouble. Slack has history because Slack wants you to live in it. No history emphasizes that chat is ephemeral and something to tune in and out. Use email or something else for more permanent disc…

email is just untenable for collaboration / discussion

That's not true though.

The Linux Kernel was built via email.

You can say you don't prefer it, but plenty of people have built some very big, complex projects via email.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Post by Dowwie »

sinnombre wrote: post #5

What about zulip? They seem to fare well in terms of features against slack and mattermost.

The Rust core dev teams are using Zulip extensively. It must be going well enough or they'd have moved onto something else. Instead, adoption has grown.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Post by davidw »

sonthonax wrote: post #42
hnaccy wrote: post #25

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>IRC works pretty well. No, it sucks.

I second this. Things like the lack of multiline messages is something one would expect out of the early 90s.

IRC is actually older than the web by a few years.

No reason you couldn't update the protocol to improve some things if you wanted to invest in it somewhat seriously.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Post by 153791098c »

newsat13 wrote: post #3

When I checked mattermost a year ago, the mattermost opensource edition had no basic permissions/access control. Any user could archive any channel. I have seen many teams fall into this "trap" only to find this basic restriction later. We since moved to Rocket.Chat. Is this still the case?

That restriction aside, how do you compare rocket chat to mattermost? Is it better?

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Post by galacticdessert »

Chyzwar wrote: post #54
say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #50

Could anyone elaborate as to how Microsoft Teams overtook Slack so quickly?

It is free (bundled with office 365). Lots of places prefer to save a few dollars per person and loose hundreds in productivity.

This. At work we use it because it is already included in our Office365 subscription, but it is so painfully slow. Really, unbelievably slow.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

secfirstmd wrote: post #44

I'm a big Mattermost fan but it really needs end to ends encryption. Also the Android mobile app is pretty weak.

Standard tls between server and client helps against any outside threat. The only threat from which e2ee helps better than tls comes from the server admin.

Now, do you REALLY need end to end encryption to protect yourself from a person running your team chat server?

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Post by spookthesunset »

sonthonax wrote: post #37
bathtub365 wrote: post #35

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Why does it matter what it’s written in?

Go will often be faster than NodeJS. It can also be deployed as a binary rather than a blob of Node modules.

Why does any of that truly matter? What matters most is if it meets the needs of people using the product, not what language it is written in nor how it is deployed.
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